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<blockquote data-quote="SoundMan" data-source="post: 7069306" data-attributes="member: 28532"><p>It was part of their culture - they didn't need to have a good education or be particularly bright as they'd be brought into a good trade. But those times they are a changing. I remember in the 80s the Shankill and the Falls looked very similar (apart from the bunting and theme of the murals obviously), but post the GFA, nationalists moved on and while the Falls didn't quite become gentrified there seemed to be a lot of pride of place and people had their houses neat and tidy and they wanted to improve their lot. A big emphasis was put on learning. So much so that now there are loyalists claiming that Queens of all places, has become a bastion of Nationalism and that it's a cold place for loyalists. The legal profession is being "taken over by taigs" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite18" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /></p><p></p><p>Going down both streets today you'd find it hard to imagine they were almost identical apart from colour of flags a couple of decades back. Particularly the lower Shankill looks like an even more derelict and dirty North Main Street but with red white, and blue bunting and murals. The Falls still has the murals but they're more political now than showing gunmen, and the street itself has no graffiti or rubbish or the like.</p><p></p><p>Loyalist ways are on the wane, and even thought the UVF are rubbishing suggestions that they're disbanding, the IRA are long gone. Their raison d'etre went with the GFA. The loosely related UVF chiefs still need to keep their drugs empires running.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/uvf-rubbishes-rumours-terror-group-set-to-announce-its-disbandment-41826111.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BT<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ailyNews&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE4MS1lMjYzLWFkZjctYTYwYi0zNTU4YjIxM2JjMDHaACQxOGFhMTAwMS0zN2U2LTRhMTgtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjYzXaACRhMjJiMGYxYy01OTQzLTQwOTctYjQxNi1kMTkzYjI2NTY3NmVHM51CuWRKR8Fcx6PK2RjMzdsrpwFx-ZauSZXN5T-v2A[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SoundMan, post: 7069306, member: 28532"] It was part of their culture - they didn't need to have a good education or be particularly bright as they'd be brought into a good trade. But those times they are a changing. I remember in the 80s the Shankill and the Falls looked very similar (apart from the bunting and theme of the murals obviously), but post the GFA, nationalists moved on and while the Falls didn't quite become gentrified there seemed to be a lot of pride of place and people had their houses neat and tidy and they wanted to improve their lot. A big emphasis was put on learning. So much so that now there are loyalists claiming that Queens of all places, has become a bastion of Nationalism and that it's a cold place for loyalists. The legal profession is being "taken over by taigs" :ROFLMAO: Going down both streets today you'd find it hard to imagine they were almost identical apart from colour of flags a couple of decades back. Particularly the lower Shankill looks like an even more derelict and dirty North Main Street but with red white, and blue bunting and murals. The Falls still has the murals but they're more political now than showing gunmen, and the street itself has no graffiti or rubbish or the like. Loyalist ways are on the wane, and even thought the UVF are rubbishing suggestions that they're disbanding, the IRA are long gone. Their raison d'etre went with the GFA. The loosely related UVF chiefs still need to keep their drugs empires running. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/uvf-rubbishes-rumours-terror-group-set-to-announce-its-disbandment-41826111.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BT:DailyNews&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE4MS1lMjYzLWFkZjctYTYwYi0zNTU4YjIxM2JjMDHaACQxOGFhMTAwMS0zN2U2LTRhMTgtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjYzXaACRhMjJiMGYxYy01OTQzLTQwOTctYjQxNi1kMTkzYjI2NTY3NmVHM51CuWRKR8Fcx6PK2RjMzdsrpwFx-ZauSZXN5T-v2A[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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