Must.... Own....property....

[outdagap]

Yeah, there's being a serious fall in construction employment. The problem in the industry is lack of skills.

Anyway we-need-to-do-more-to-tempt-people-into-construction

Yes, and it's finally starting to happen, I believe there were 9,000 new apprenticeships last year, across all sectors, but still short in the dirtier trades like brickies and plasterers. We either bring those skills in from abroad or change house building styles, so we are less reliant on them. Loads want to be plumbers or electricians of course.

 

[jank]

Not so long ago one wage was enough to buy a house, have 2 cars, raise a family, go on holidays etc.

When exactly was this?

What about people on minimum wage?

People on the minimum wage only account for about 2% of the workforce. And these people really shouldn't be buying houses.
That is where cost rentals and social housing comes into play.

 

[jank]

No, but add some rent controls

We already have rent controls.

 

[outdagap]

When exactly was this?

People on the minimum wage only account for about 2% of the workforce. And these people really shouldn't be buying houses.
That is where cost rentals and social housing comes into play.

Exactly. They should never have followed the Thatcherite model of the 80s re selling off the social housing stock, but thankfully there seems to be widespread acceptance that social and affordable housing needs to be built.

 

[Coogee]

Yes, and it's finally starting to happen, I believe there were 9,000 new apprenticeships last year, across all sectors, but still short in the dirtier trades like brickies and plasterers. We either bring those skills in from abroad or change house building styles, so we are less reliant on them. Loads want to be plumbers or electricians of course.

becoming a major issue in the UK construction market also.

Im office based and we are struggle to find graduates and people with up to 10 years experience for engineering, quantity surveying, project management roles.

Our subcontractors biggest issue is skilled tradespeople and labour.

 

[slick fingers]

People on the minimum wage only account for about 2% of the workforce. And these people really shouldn't be buying houses.
That is where cost rentals and social housing comes into play.

The income threshold for social housing for a single person in cork city is 40k Net per annum. That's the median wage

 

[Bennyton]

That same not so long ago is literally a futile argument. In the mid 80s we had 17% unemployment, and a quality of life to match.

It sounds wild like, but if you can get young people in from abroad, then great, do it.

Young people here don't trust that construction won't fall over again in 5 years, so I don't blame them for choosing another, easier path.

 

[Bennyton]

Or even better, raise the density of Irish cities with good quality mid density housing.

Seems to be finally happening in Dublin, there are 120 cranes in the sky in Dublin now, and most of those flats are 3-6 storeys high.

The people arguing for a "paris style" city of 4-6 storeys are dopes, Paris has much wider boulevards than Dublin, at 6 storets in dublin, you're usually blocking any light on the footpath outside, so you may as well go to 30 storeys in a few spots than 4-6 everywhere, but there you go.

 

[Bennyton]

We already have rent controls.

They're not working.

 

[FSG OUT]

When exactly was this?

People on the minimum wage only account for about 2% of the workforce. And these people really shouldn't be buying houses.
That is where cost rentals and social housing comes into play.

"These people really shouldn't be buying houses"
Rents are more expensive than mortgages.
Where should they live so?