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<blockquote data-quote="Corcaigh32" data-source="post: 3937038" data-attributes="member: 9332"><p>As I said I think he's the wrong choice but I can see one value in his candidacy.</p><p></p><p>I've said it before - when it comes to identity, nationhood, who we are and who we want to be and what our relationship should be with England or Europe - we've systematically avoided that discussion. Whether in the North or down here tribalism prevails. Protestant or Catholic, Unionists or Nationalists, FF or FG, united Ireland or rejoin commonwealth / union, pro-Europe or anti - we go with the media driven groupthink more often than not. We need to have that conversation urgently. Higgins is trying to foster it. What MacGuinness brings is the opportunity to evaluate our relationship with our Northern brethren of either persuasion and that in itself will be an important contribution even if he hasn't a chance of being elected. I expect Mitchell to go after him bald-headed and he will get a bump from that as the O'Reilly Rag, Red Tops and RTE all go on the murdering Provo route.</p><p></p><p>But maybe that's why they picked him. Maybe they picked him because SF have reached a glass ceiling electorally until they lance that troubles boil that the electorate down here can't get past, understandably in some ways. </p><p></p><p>I think MacGuinness using the term is no different to people calling him Provo or worse. It doesn't add anything positive to the debate but neither does bsrstooler or knuckledragger or Provo. We need to dispassionately assess our past on all sides with equal weight and respect. The pros and cons of armed struggle, role of state, military and loyalist paramilitary in opposition and the pain caused on all aides - that's a discussion that needs to be started and if his candidacy prompts that - fair enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corcaigh32, post: 3937038, member: 9332"] As I said I think he's the wrong choice but I can see one value in his candidacy. I've said it before - when it comes to identity, nationhood, who we are and who we want to be and what our relationship should be with England or Europe - we've systematically avoided that discussion. Whether in the North or down here tribalism prevails. Protestant or Catholic, Unionists or Nationalists, FF or FG, united Ireland or rejoin commonwealth / union, pro-Europe or anti - we go with the media driven groupthink more often than not. We need to have that conversation urgently. Higgins is trying to foster it. What MacGuinness brings is the opportunity to evaluate our relationship with our Northern brethren of either persuasion and that in itself will be an important contribution even if he hasn't a chance of being elected. I expect Mitchell to go after him bald-headed and he will get a bump from that as the O'Reilly Rag, Red Tops and RTE all go on the murdering Provo route. But maybe that's why they picked him. Maybe they picked him because SF have reached a glass ceiling electorally until they lance that troubles boil that the electorate down here can't get past, understandably in some ways. I think MacGuinness using the term is no different to people calling him Provo or worse. It doesn't add anything positive to the debate but neither does bsrstooler or knuckledragger or Provo. We need to dispassionately assess our past on all sides with equal weight and respect. The pros and cons of armed struggle, role of state, military and loyalist paramilitary in opposition and the pain caused on all aides - that's a discussion that needs to be started and if his candidacy prompts that - fair enough. [/QUOTE]
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