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Russia's unjustifiable war of aggression in Ukraine
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<blockquote data-quote="catcha" data-source="post: 7059016" data-attributes="member: 49798"><p>continued (characters limit)</p><p></p><h4>So Putin needs a quick defeat to avoid it. What is the method of bringing Putin to a quick defeat - exactly weapons, a solid rearmament of Ukraine by the West? </h4><p>- Maybe it's even too late. But yes, the point is <a href="https://wyborcza.pl/7,75399,28613973,niemieckie-haubice-pzh-2000-dotarly-do-ukrainy-ale-to-kropla.html" target="_blank">to quickly arm Ukraine with the types of equipment that the Russians do not have</a> . They are heavy weapons such as MLRS launchers, HIMARS, which are capable of destroying Russian artillery and can be located far enough away that the Russians would not be able to bomb them. Of course, planes would be useful too, but I understand that this is no longer an option. And this is happening now, such weapons are currently going to Ukraine, but they are still too small. </p><p>- Sooner or later there will be negotiations and all those who say they will be right are right - because they will be, only when. We want the negotiations to take place when Ukraine wins, when it ejects Russians from its territories. Then you can start talking. But when Russia has Donbass, Lugansk, Kherson, maybe something more? This is not a good time to negotiate for Ukraine. So they have to start later. </p><p></p><p>I am for talks, for dialogue, but not at the moment. It seems to me that it is a mistake to talk about it now. I understand that everyone wants peace, everyone wants this war to end, but I also see a mistake in thinking that if open war ends, then violence will end too. As I said, Russia can continue its violence in the territories it occupies. If we want to defend the lives of Ukrainians and save Ukraine as a state, we cannot allow the Russians to destroy the entire eastern and southern part of this country.</p><p></p><h4>And are you not afraid that it is inevitable that sooner or later not all, but the eastern and southern part of Ukraine will look like Mariupol, that it will be wiped off the face of the earth? </h4><p>- That's possible. It looks as if this was Russia's goal that they want to destroy this territory so that nothing is there. Now one may ask: what for? To have a completely ruined country where no one lives? Which billions will have to be spent on reconstruction? This is a little pointless. But in that sense, this war is pointless. This is a pure colonial imperial war in which Putin wants to show that he is capable of enlarging Russia and destroying Ukraine. This war has no economic purpose. And it has no other purpose. </p><p></p><h4>Ukraine will be granted the status of a candidate for the European Union, it is a foregone conclusion, but there are doubts about the fast track of admission, is it real or can it take years? </h4><p>- Of course it will take years. All admissions to the European Union last for years. Much depends on how the war unfolds and how quickly Ukraine will be able to negotiate and implement all EU regulations. But of course it won't be tomorrow. However, it seems to me that if the war ends with some sensible guarantee for Ukraine, some certainty that the Russians will not step in again, it is real and it is possible that Ukraine will be accepted, because it will now be an asset for the Union. But that won't happen in the next few months. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://wyborcza.pl/7,82983,28613934,anne-applebaum-jest-scenariusz-ktorego-obawiam-sie.html#S.MT-K.C-B.2-L.4.maly" target="_blank">source</a></p><p></p><p>and I agree with her in 100% unfortunately, there is a video from this interview, but I am not putting it here, I am really surprised how good her Polish is! Well, she lives with her Polish husband - Radek Sikorski in Poland for some time, she had time to learn <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Still hats off for getting to this fluency <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>good night.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catcha, post: 7059016, member: 49798"] continued (characters limit) [HEADING=3]So Putin needs a quick defeat to avoid it. What is the method of bringing Putin to a quick defeat - exactly weapons, a solid rearmament of Ukraine by the West? [/HEADING] - Maybe it's even too late. But yes, the point is [URL='https://wyborcza.pl/7,75399,28613973,niemieckie-haubice-pzh-2000-dotarly-do-ukrainy-ale-to-kropla.html']to quickly arm Ukraine with the types of equipment that the Russians do not have[/URL] . They are heavy weapons such as MLRS launchers, HIMARS, which are capable of destroying Russian artillery and can be located far enough away that the Russians would not be able to bomb them. Of course, planes would be useful too, but I understand that this is no longer an option. And this is happening now, such weapons are currently going to Ukraine, but they are still too small. - Sooner or later there will be negotiations and all those who say they will be right are right - because they will be, only when. We want the negotiations to take place when Ukraine wins, when it ejects Russians from its territories. Then you can start talking. But when Russia has Donbass, Lugansk, Kherson, maybe something more? This is not a good time to negotiate for Ukraine. So they have to start later. I am for talks, for dialogue, but not at the moment. It seems to me that it is a mistake to talk about it now. I understand that everyone wants peace, everyone wants this war to end, but I also see a mistake in thinking that if open war ends, then violence will end too. As I said, Russia can continue its violence in the territories it occupies. If we want to defend the lives of Ukrainians and save Ukraine as a state, we cannot allow the Russians to destroy the entire eastern and southern part of this country. [HEADING=3]And are you not afraid that it is inevitable that sooner or later not all, but the eastern and southern part of Ukraine will look like Mariupol, that it will be wiped off the face of the earth? [/HEADING] - That's possible. It looks as if this was Russia's goal that they want to destroy this territory so that nothing is there. Now one may ask: what for? To have a completely ruined country where no one lives? Which billions will have to be spent on reconstruction? This is a little pointless. But in that sense, this war is pointless. This is a pure colonial imperial war in which Putin wants to show that he is capable of enlarging Russia and destroying Ukraine. This war has no economic purpose. And it has no other purpose. [HEADING=3]Ukraine will be granted the status of a candidate for the European Union, it is a foregone conclusion, but there are doubts about the fast track of admission, is it real or can it take years? [/HEADING] - Of course it will take years. All admissions to the European Union last for years. Much depends on how the war unfolds and how quickly Ukraine will be able to negotiate and implement all EU regulations. But of course it won't be tomorrow. However, it seems to me that if the war ends with some sensible guarantee for Ukraine, some certainty that the Russians will not step in again, it is real and it is possible that Ukraine will be accepted, because it will now be an asset for the Union. But that won't happen in the next few months. [URL='https://wyborcza.pl/7,82983,28613934,anne-applebaum-jest-scenariusz-ktorego-obawiam-sie.html#S.MT-K.C-B.2-L.4.maly']source[/URL] and I agree with her in 100% unfortunately, there is a video from this interview, but I am not putting it here, I am really surprised how good her Polish is! Well, she lives with her Polish husband - Radek Sikorski in Poland for some time, she had time to learn :) Still hats off for getting to this fluency :) good night. [/QUOTE]
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