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Jesus lads, 'tis looking like BREXIT!
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<blockquote data-quote="PROCNA2018" data-source="post: 7055000" data-attributes="member: 43313"><p>Corbyn was a good politician - his politics were just unacceptable in Brexit Britain and the papers ensured he was labelled something he very definitely isn't to ensure he didn't get in. Add to that that there were senior Blairites in Labour who were undermining him, he didn't stand a chance.</p><p></p><p>And when I mention Blairites it's not to take a side. It is again the reality of party internal politics.</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty certain who you would vote for, I would vote for and certainly who Stacky would vote for - for all the right reasons ..............watch what will happen though...............depending on who the leaders are heading into the next election.</p><p></p><p>If it was an open goal electorally he would be 20+ points ahead and he isn't.</p><p></p><p>I agree with a lot of what you are saying except for how politics works.</p><p></p><p>If Boris is pushed - if the 22 committee change the rules and after the bye-elections he loses both and the EU as seems likely today have taken him to the ECJ on the protocol bill, Rwanda, partygate ongoing etc etc.............Starmer's lead will disappear. If we are all right - and people should vote for the best man for the job, boring or not, that lead disappearing should not happen. But it is precisely because Starmer does NOT have a 20+ lead on Boris and why - that he will lose his lead on the next tory leader.</p><p></p><p>I am not saying Labour won't win the next GE in England but I am saying where they stand a good chance if Boris hangs on - they will have much less chance if he goes. Boris is Starmer's biggest electoral asset.</p><p></p><p>Given the tory disaster after disaster, the electoral open goal is there, I don't think Starmer will take the shot. I think they missed a trick with Starmer - Nandy, Rayner or maybe even Burnam (sp) would have been a better option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PROCNA2018, post: 7055000, member: 43313"] Corbyn was a good politician - his politics were just unacceptable in Brexit Britain and the papers ensured he was labelled something he very definitely isn't to ensure he didn't get in. Add to that that there were senior Blairites in Labour who were undermining him, he didn't stand a chance. And when I mention Blairites it's not to take a side. It is again the reality of party internal politics. I'm pretty certain who you would vote for, I would vote for and certainly who Stacky would vote for - for all the right reasons ..............watch what will happen though...............depending on who the leaders are heading into the next election. If it was an open goal electorally he would be 20+ points ahead and he isn't. I agree with a lot of what you are saying except for how politics works. If Boris is pushed - if the 22 committee change the rules and after the bye-elections he loses both and the EU as seems likely today have taken him to the ECJ on the protocol bill, Rwanda, partygate ongoing etc etc.............Starmer's lead will disappear. If we are all right - and people should vote for the best man for the job, boring or not, that lead disappearing should not happen. But it is precisely because Starmer does NOT have a 20+ lead on Boris and why - that he will lose his lead on the next tory leader. I am not saying Labour won't win the next GE in England but I am saying where they stand a good chance if Boris hangs on - they will have much less chance if he goes. Boris is Starmer's biggest electoral asset. Given the tory disaster after disaster, the electoral open goal is there, I don't think Starmer will take the shot. I think they missed a trick with Starmer - Nandy, Rayner or maybe even Burnam (sp) would have been a better option. [/QUOTE]
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