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<blockquote data-quote="norvackxx" data-source="post: 1460000" data-attributes="member: 10670"><p>I personally wouldn't vote for a single issue party and the fact that Ni Chonaill has been around for a long time and has got nowhere probably shows that she's a bit of a fruitcake. I actually did part of my dissertation in fianl year of college on the BNP and the ICP. Back then the ICP had a statement on their website stating something like "people with notions of racial superiority and/or discrimination or not welcome in our party". That said, that doesn't necessarily mean she isn't racist. They are defo not as aggressive as the BNP. To assess whether she's racist or not you really have to come up with a definition of what racism is. </p><p></p><p>That said, I'm not going to stand on the fence here, I'm definitely anti-immigration. I hate the bullshit pedalled by some that "it's great we have such a multi-cultural country". What's so great about it. Back when I did my disertation in 2003 immigration didnt bother me one iota but it has accelerated so much lately that I do now look on it with a very negative attitude. Because such large numbers of people are coming to Ireland from the same countries, when they get here they stick together and hence don't assimilate. </p><p></p><p>For example, a couple of Polish girls used to drink in the pub I used to work in before the accesstion states joined and they integrated really well. They made the effort and so did all the locals in the pub. They basically had to cos they were in a minority and people were willing to make an effort cos there was only two of them!!. However, since accession those two girls now very much hang around with their compatriots and don't interact with the Irish as much anymore. I dont blame the girls ( I would do the same myself) but it illustrates the point that when immigration happens in such large numbers assimilation is impossible. </p><p></p><p>What worries me most of all is that an Irish underclass will develop. I live in a very multi-ethnic part of London (mainly blacks and Asians) and walking home late at night the only people I worry about bumping into is Ethnic English whites. I think that because a number of sociological phenomena, the mass immigration in England has caused native working class whites to become total scumbags. From reading the news in Ireland and walking the streets of Dublin and seeing how scummy working class Dubs are compared to 10 years ago, I'd say Ireland is going to go the same way. </p><p></p><p>When mass-immigration occurs in a country usually the immigrants occupy lower social strata. The presence of immigrants also tends to lead to a larger gap between the rich and the poor of the country because wages become lowered and businesses thrive as a result (this has already happened in Ireland, big style). Those working class natives that are left behind feel pretty pissed off that they missed the boat. I'm not going to go into the reasons behind my next assumption cos it's too complicated from a sociological viewpoint and I dont have all the answers but here it is anyway. As a result of missing the aforementioned boat the working class natives become involved in much higher levels of scobism than they would have had the society they lived in been more egalitarian. </p><p></p><p>PS my signature is meant in jest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="norvackxx, post: 1460000, member: 10670"] I personally wouldn't vote for a single issue party and the fact that Ni Chonaill has been around for a long time and has got nowhere probably shows that she's a bit of a fruitcake. I actually did part of my dissertation in fianl year of college on the BNP and the ICP. Back then the ICP had a statement on their website stating something like "people with notions of racial superiority and/or discrimination or not welcome in our party". That said, that doesn't necessarily mean she isn't racist. They are defo not as aggressive as the BNP. To assess whether she's racist or not you really have to come up with a definition of what racism is. That said, I'm not going to stand on the fence here, I'm definitely anti-immigration. I hate the bullshit pedalled by some that "it's great we have such a multi-cultural country". What's so great about it. Back when I did my disertation in 2003 immigration didnt bother me one iota but it has accelerated so much lately that I do now look on it with a very negative attitude. Because such large numbers of people are coming to Ireland from the same countries, when they get here they stick together and hence don't assimilate. For example, a couple of Polish girls used to drink in the pub I used to work in before the accesstion states joined and they integrated really well. They made the effort and so did all the locals in the pub. They basically had to cos they were in a minority and people were willing to make an effort cos there was only two of them!!. However, since accession those two girls now very much hang around with their compatriots and don't interact with the Irish as much anymore. I dont blame the girls ( I would do the same myself) but it illustrates the point that when immigration happens in such large numbers assimilation is impossible. What worries me most of all is that an Irish underclass will develop. I live in a very multi-ethnic part of London (mainly blacks and Asians) and walking home late at night the only people I worry about bumping into is Ethnic English whites. I think that because a number of sociological phenomena, the mass immigration in England has caused native working class whites to become total scumbags. From reading the news in Ireland and walking the streets of Dublin and seeing how scummy working class Dubs are compared to 10 years ago, I'd say Ireland is going to go the same way. When mass-immigration occurs in a country usually the immigrants occupy lower social strata. The presence of immigrants also tends to lead to a larger gap between the rich and the poor of the country because wages become lowered and businesses thrive as a result (this has already happened in Ireland, big style). Those working class natives that are left behind feel pretty pissed off that they missed the boat. I'm not going to go into the reasons behind my next assumption cos it's too complicated from a sociological viewpoint and I dont have all the answers but here it is anyway. As a result of missing the aforementioned boat the working class natives become involved in much higher levels of scobism than they would have had the society they lived in been more egalitarian. PS my signature is meant in jest. [/QUOTE]
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