F35 are useless, you heard the man.
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So as mentioned couple days ago, Russians are trying to force the narrative of their absolute win in Ukraine. Well, not surprised seeing some of the posts here. So let me do some reality check with words of someone else. Seriously, there is no point going into the rabbit hole set by Russians
It has now been 76 days since the Russians launched the Battle of the Dohnbas. This would make it one of the longest major battles in the 20th and 21st centuries. Many times longer than Kursk,e Bagration Normandy, Bulge, etc. Its much closer to WWI (Somme, Passchendale, Verdun)
And what has happened in the 2.5 months so far. Best to start with this map. Basically the Russians have dialed back enormously on their expectations (and frankly the expectations of others) that they would take a big chunk of Ukrainian territory.
Instead after 11 weeks of combat, major losses and command changes, desperate attempts to raise forces and concentrating their firepower in a very small area, the Russians have compelled to Ukrainians to withdraw from Severodonetsk and Lysychansk.
Even that phrase needs to be emphasized--the Ukrainians have withdrawn in good order, as the Russians have never cut their communications. The map above (and indeed modern combined arms and Russian doctrine) would have had as a basic task an encirclement of Ukrainian forces
However the Russian Army is incapable of fulfilling the basic tasks of modern war. Instead its does incremental, slow advances, a kilometer at a time. It cant breakthrough, it cant exploit, it cant encircle. This is not a sign of an advanced military.
What has it taken. Well in the scheme of things, it might eventually take an amount of territory equivalent to greater London (think within the M25). Here are some maps that make it clear--imposed London on the region.
Had it been said on April 18, that the Russians would have taken such a small amount of territory, at cost, in 77 days, Been unable to encircle Ukrainian forces, etc, it would be have construed as a great Russian failure.
Now going forward, where are we? There seems to be a split between two groups. The Russians will take and hold group and the relative balance will shift group.
The Russians will take and hold group, mostly made up by those who were talking about how easily Russia would conquer Ukraine before Feb 24 and by Russianists who seem desperate to show Russia is a great power to make themselves seem relevant...
are saying that basically Russia can hold what it takes and that Ukraine has to take a peace deal that accepts that. This recent story in
@washingtonpost has some of that
washingtonpost.com/national-secur…
Basically those who argue that Russia is a great power make this point. Needless to say I dont see Russia as a great power. Its a mid-ranking, deeply flawed power with nuclear weapons. You might have seen this.
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As such I definitely believe that the Ukrainians, if properly supported, can drive the Russians back. Indeed the trajectory of the battle (and the constant dialling back of Russian goals) is part of a trend since day 1 of the Ukrainians gaining strength.
What we see is Russia getting increasingly weaker and relying on older systems. There tanks, APCs, missiles, etc, are all degrading as they try to make up losses/wastage by bringing older systems into operation.
Civilian Death Toll Rises as Russians Rely on Older WeaponsThe battle for the eastern city of Lysychansk reaches a pivotal point. While Russia continues to make gains in the east, Ukraine tries to take back lost territory in the south.https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/0...rease-in-the-second-half-of-june-ukraine-says
Even their soldiers are getting older. As Putin is terrified of bringing the realities of war to his people. The Duma just passed a bill raising the age for military service to 65! This is Volksturm WWII levels of desperation.
Russian Duma Approves Bill Raising Age Limit For Military Personnel To 65Russian parliament's lower chamber, the State Duma, has approved a bill that would raise the upper age limit for military personnel serving in the Russian Army on a contractual basis.https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-raises-military-age/31867388.html
btw--applying WWII analogies on Soviet performance to Russia today dont work The USSR was able to increase production and raise millions of new troops, Russia today cant produce nearly enough modern equipment to cover its losses and is terrified to conscript society.
Otoh, Ukrainian strategy seems coherent. Continue attriting Russian forces until an attempt to push them back can be made. 'when the time is right'
kyivindependent.com/national/as-uk…
As Ukraine withdraws from Sievierodonetsk, Battle of Donbas enters next phaseUkrainian T-64 tank drives along a dirt road in the war zone of Donbas on June 21, 2022 (Anatoliy Stepanov)In the Battle of Donbas, Ukraine’s military has made a painful yet long-anticipated decision …https://kyivindependent.com/nationa...erodonetsk-battle-of-donbas-enters-next-phase
Now Ive made it clear that I think this is eminently possible, in this conversation with
@EliotACohen for instance.
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Also, the intellectual trajectory of the war shows the Ukrainians adapting and improving and the Russian not. Snake Island one example. The counterattacks near Kherson another. Smart, low casualty moves, getting closer and closer to a major objective.
So that is why, imho, the Battle of the Donbas, indeed the war as a whole, even with halting Russian advances in the Donbas, has the strong potential to transform in Ukraine's direction going forward. The Ukrainian population sense this too.
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So what to add more? I know, those "successes" can be summed up with the below (and it is only about this tiny bit of land, not enough space for post to put more on diplomacy, economy, military condition etc.):
