the US police killings

latched onto by the black community who want to start a race war.

i think these were two cases of accidental killings who just happened to be black people. the police were wrong (to a certain extent) in both cases. but these weren't racist cases.

it begs the question - are black people holding back race relations in the US?
 
latched onto by the black community who want to start a race war.

i think these were two cases of accidental killings who just happened to be black people. the police were wrong (to a certain extent) in both cases. but these weren't racist cases.

it begs the question - are black people holding back race relations in the US?


totally.

also, black male teens are 21 times more likely to be shot than whites.

it begs the question - is this actually black people's fault?
 
totally.

also, black male teens are 21 times more likely to be shot than whites.

it begs the question - is this actually black people's fault?

grossly misleading stat.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

It major findings were stated as:[3]

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the White rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is Black and Hispanic.
Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are Black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When Whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are Black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than Whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
 
grossly misleading stat.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

It major findings were stated as:[3]

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the White rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is Black and Hispanic.
Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are Black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When Whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are Black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than Whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

Interesting source, Lozzy. Care to tell us some more about it, or should people just Google the New Century Foundation themselves?

Edit: or indeed Metapedia itself. Some sloppy stuff there, kid.

Some critical comments on The Colour of Crime here: http://www.timwise.org/2004/11/race-crime-and-sloppy-social-science/

I wouldn't accept everything Wise says, but I would certainly not take your source material at face value either.
 
Interesting source, Lozzy. Care to tell us some more about it, or should people just Google the New Century Foundation themselves?

Edit: or indeed Metapedia itself. Some sloppy stuff there, kid.

Some critical comments on The Colour of Crime here: http://www.timwise.org/2004/11/race-crime-and-sloppy-social-science/

I wouldn't accept everything Wise says, but I would certainly not take your source material at face value either.

okay, how about stats from the FBI -

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...he-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

violent crime by whites in 2012 - 236,394
violent crime by blacks in 2012 - 155,088

bearing in mind there are around 38 million blacks in america, and 220 million whites.

so a violent crime for every 930 whites
and a violent crime for every 245 blacks.

a black is almost 4 times as likely to commit a violent crime than a white.
 
okay, how about stats from the FBI -

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...he-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

violent crime by whites in 2012 - 236,394
violent crime by blacks in 2012 - 155,088

bearing in mind there are around 38 million blacks in america, and 220 million whites.

so a violent crime for every 930 whites
and a violent crime for every 245 blacks.

a black is almost 4 times as likely to commit a violent crime than a white.

Cool. What exactly does that show about police violence, racism and 'blacks wanting to start a race war'?
Are you still saying that Bongo-y's stat is grossly misleading?
 
saying blacks are more likely to be shot by police without mentioning that blacks are also more likely to commit violent crime is misleading.

Indeed it is. So is saying that the black community want to start a race war. So is quoting statistics from a far-right website without mentioning the possibility of bias.
Personally, I'm very much against misleading statements on the INTERNET.
 
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