Sinn Fein are not a Normal Political Party

[Stacky]

Yea right, dream on you clown :

Sinn Féin promises homes 'as low as €250,000' if elected

Sinn Féin has promised affordable homes will be sold “as low as €250,000” if elected at the next election.

www.newstalk.com

Fantasy land nonsense:

Fingal County Council Dublin:
Applications will be accepted via an online application portal starting from 12 noon on 26th April 2024 for 16 homes available for sale throughout North County Dublin under Affordable Housing Purchase Arrangements. The homes available for purchase are located in the following Developments: Millers Glen, Swords (6 houses); Mooretown, Swords (2 houses); Station Road, Lusk (3 houses); The Paddocks, Donabate (3 houses); and College Avenue, Belcamp (2 houses). Prices range 2-Bedroom from €300,000, 3-Bedroom from €370,000 and 4-Bedroom from €450,000
Dublin City Council:
When the all-in costs of development were taken into account, and the apartments weighted for their size, the review found one-bedroom apartments provided directly by council cost €335,000, 11 per cent above the equivalent figure for AHBs (€303,000) and 34 per cent above the figure for “Part Vs “(€250,000). Under Part V legislation developers are required to allocate a number of homes for sale to local authorities for social housing.

For two-bedroom homes, the council construction costs of €514,000 were 23 per cent above the AHB average of €418,000 and 44 per cent above the Part V average €358,000.

Dublin City Council has been paying in excess of 40 per cent more for the construction of social housing than private sector developers, an independent audit of more than 1,000 Dublin homes has found.

Cork City Council, in partnership with Vella Homes, has announced the launch of an exciting new Affordable Housing Scheme at Danesfort, Whites Cross, to the northeast of Cork City.

The development consists of a total of 64 affordable homes, available for sale via Cork City Council’s ‘Local Authority Affordable Purchase Scheme’, providing for 58 three-bedroom and six two-bedroom A2-rated, architecturally designed, spacious homes, all for sale at around 20 per cent below open market values to those who qualify for the Ascheme.
The two-bedroom homes will be available from €261,000 and three-bedroom homes will start at €296,000.

 

[jimmym]

Even if houses were priced @ 250k people would still laugh at the idea of them been affordable, Some seem to think
you have to pay for them in one payment,

 

[DeepThroat]

Dublin City Council has been paying in excess of 40 per cent more for the construction of social housing than private sector developers, an independent audit of more than 1,000 Dublin homes has found.

Having worked on a small City Council development a few years ago I can tell you the reason for this.

Private developers do not employ Architects beyond the design of a standard house ( Some of them just pay for the design of one house and use it for their entire development portfolio), they also don't use Engineers for structural/road/drainage design.

This means their is no professional oversight during the Construction phase and they tend to cut corners and not use best practices to provide a top quality product. And use cheap materials.

The Councils do so their costs are higher, but if you've been in any house built by developers during the Celtic Tiger you will very quickly see after that after a few years they are in pretty bad condition.

Priory House, Mica scandal, and my own favourite ( but not well repoted) the lack of overflow pipes in baths in Lucan ( the cowboy developer didn't realise they were important)

 

[Stacky]

Having worked on a small City Council development a few years ago I can tell you the reason for this.

Private developers do not employ Architects beyond the design of a standard house ( Some of them just pay for the design of one house and use it for their entire development portfolio), they also don't use Engineers for structural/road/drainage design.

This means their is no professional oversight during the Construction phase and they tend to cut corners and not use best practices to provide a top quality product. And use cheap materials.

The Councils do so their costs are higher, but if you've been in any house built by developers during the Celtic Tiger you will very quickly see after that after a few years they are in pretty bad condition.

Priory House, Mica scandal, and my own favourite ( but not well repoted) the lack of overflow pipes in baths in Lucan ( the cowboy developer didn't realise they were important)

Private developers do employ architects to do the tender/construction phase as well as the assigned certifier during the build and final certification a spart of the BCMS system of building control.

They have to also keep engineers on for the structural design, site supervision and certification of structural elements as well as build supervision and sign-off at all stages of construction.

Both professionals have to provide certs at the end of the project as well as all the health and safety documentation.

The amount of information required form architects and engineers at both planning and construction/certification stage now is huge.

Good luck getting finance and insurance without all this oversight, certs and documentation.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Fantasy land nonsense:

Fingal County Council Dublin:
Applications will be accepted via an online application portal starting from 12 noon on 26th April 2024 for 16 homes available for sale throughout North County Dublin under Affordable Housing Purchase Arrangements. The homes available for purchase are located in the following Developments: Millers Glen, Swords (6 houses); Mooretown, Swords (2 houses); Station Road, Lusk (3 houses); The Paddocks, Donabate (3 houses); and College Avenue, Belcamp (2 houses). Prices range 2-Bedroom from €300,000, 3-Bedroom from €370,000 and 4-Bedroom from €450,000
Dublin City Council:
When the all-in costs of development were taken into account, and the apartments weighted for their size, the review found one-bedroom apartments provided directly by council cost €335,000, 11 per cent above the equivalent figure for AHBs (€303,000) and 34 per cent above the figure for “Part Vs “(€250,000). Under Part V legislation developers are required to allocate a number of homes for sale to local authorities for social housing.

For two-bedroom homes, the council construction costs of €514,000 were 23 per cent above the AHB average of €418,000 and 44 per cent above the Part V average €358,000.

Dublin City Council has been paying in excess of 40 per cent more for the construction of social housing than private sector developers, an independent audit of more than 1,000 Dublin homes has found.

Cork City Council, in partnership with Vella Homes, has announced the launch of an exciting new Affordable Housing Scheme at Danesfort, Whites Cross, to the northeast of Cork City.

The development consists of a total of 64 affordable homes, available for sale via Cork City Council’s ‘Local Authority Affordable Purchase Scheme’, providing for 58 three-bedroom and six two-bedroom A2-rated, architecturally designed, spacious homes, all for sale at around 20 per cent below open market values to those who qualify for the Ascheme.
The two-bedroom homes will be available from €261,000 and three-bedroom homes will start at €296,000.

 

[DeepThroat]

Private developers do employ architects to do the tender/construction phase as well as the assigned certifier during the build and final certification a spart of the BCMS system of building control.

They have to also keep engineers on for the structural design, site supervision and certification of structural elements as well as build supervision and sign-off at all stages of construction.

Both professionals have to provide certs at the end of the project as well as all the health and safety documentation.

The amount of information required form architects and engineers at both planning and construction/certification stage now is huge.

Good luck getting finance and insurance without all this oversight, certs and documentation.

In theory yes, in alot of cases they can be seen to comply, that doesn't mean they always do.

 

[Stacky]

In theory yes, in alot of cases they can be seen to comply, that doesn't mean they always do.

Actually in reality.

If the architect and engineer do not sign off and provide the certs the the property cannot be sold or rented.

The builder also has to sign off and accept full responsibility for the construction.

The purchasers solicitor and lender (Bank or Building Society etc) will just not release the funds to buy it.

Why has all this come in?

To prevent future Priory Halls and Celtic Tiger low construction standards and lack of compliance in places with a paper trail from start to finish.

 

[Meridian]

A guilty conscious from his day's as a republican scum terrorist no doubt ;

Conor Murphy steps down as NI minister on medical grounds

Northern Ireland Economy Minister Conor Murphy is standing down from his post on medical grounds, Sinn Féin vice-president Michelle O'Neill has said.

www.rte.ie

SF / IRA = Scum

 

[jimmym]

A guilty conscious from his day's as a republican scum terrorist no doubt ;

Conor Murphy steps down as NI minister on medical grounds

Northern Ireland Economy Minister Conor Murphy is standing down from his post on medical grounds, Sinn Féin vice-president Michelle O'Neill has said.

www.rte.ie

SF / IRA = Scum

7500 emails in your inbox from Dafty would affect anybodys health.

 

[Crankycorner]

7500 emails in your inbox from Dafty would affect anybodys health.

Micheál Martin must be relieved also.