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Old 13-06-2019, 12:31 AM
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The Leftie liberal do-gooders might disagree with you.
You really do get more stupid by day.
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Old 13-06-2019, 12:33 AM
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And their parents who backed them.
Harsh man, a parents love is unconditional. Despite what they have done, you can't blame the parents.

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Old 13-06-2019, 12:37 AM
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Harsh man, a parents love is unconditional. Despite what they have done, you can blame the parents.
Room for debate on that.
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Old 13-06-2019, 12:45 AM
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Room for debate on that.
How much debate? I know if it was one of my kids I would do my best to get them off. Obviously that won't go down well with the social media crime solvers here but to be honest I don't really care.

Edit, just seen I said can blame instead of can't. I have fixed it now.
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Old 13-06-2019, 01:24 AM
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Harsh man, a parents love is unconditional. Despite what they have done, you can't blame the parents.
I know what you're saying but I'd like to believe that I would do the honourable thing here if one of my children was ever in this situation. Talk is cheap tho ,I know.
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Old 13-06-2019, 06:33 AM
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How much debate? I know if it was one of my kids I would do my best to get them off. Obviously that won't go down well with the social media crime solvers here but to be honest I don't really care.

Edit, just seen I said can blame instead of can't. I have fixed it now.
Would that extend to giving false alibis? Getting rid of evidence?
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Old 13-06-2019, 06:41 AM
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Would that extend to giving false alibis? Getting rid of evidence?
Did they do this?
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Old 13-06-2019, 06:43 AM
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Did they do this?
Not to my knowledge.
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Old 13-06-2019, 06:49 AM
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In fairness this is all about the victim. I see where you are coming from but a young girl was beaten to death. It’s her family I truly feel sorry for.
Certainly on the hierarchy of suffering, Ana's family have endured the most - by far - and this will continue for the rest of their lives. It's a nightmare from which they cannot wake up.
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Old 13-06-2019, 07:29 AM
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I know if it was one of my kids I would do my best to get them off.
If the child made a very bad mistake, including killing someone on the spur of the moment, and was later genuinely penitent, then perhaps.

But one of the really weird things about this case, in my view, is how brazen and arrogant the two accused remained after the crime. Christ, they were only 13 years old, but in the days after the murder there was no collapse in fear and horror and shame at what they'd done, but instead they coordinated their stories and fake alibies and continued to play the innocent even when urged to tell the truth by weeping mothers and under pressure from trained and experienced detectives. That's really remarkable in 13-yr-olds.

Their behaviour after the act definitely made true criminals of both of them. If they had felt true remorse in the cold light of the following morning, they would have quickly moved over to the side of decency and law-abiding society and would have brought the search parties to the dead body, ended the agony of the girl's poor parents and confessed their part.

But by lying, lying, lying until forced to the truth by external evidence and the contradictions of their own accounts, they showed themselves to be committed to the criminal mindset.
Boy B's father also said he had no influence on his son in those days.

Neither society nor the parents themselves can tolerate that. These kids put themselves outside society before, during and after their crime and should now be forced to remain there.
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