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Old 07-03-2017, 01:42 PM
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The same minority who have for 40 years chanted the mantra that they are democrats and that political violence is unacceptable in all its forms? The same minority who treated the minority in the gerrymandered entity they live in like 2nd class citizens for much of the 20th century including allowing the pogroms of the late 60's and early 70's?

Point being, if and when unity happens, we will need to respect the culture, traditions, holidays, languages and passport entitlements of that minority. Because republicans do not want to do to unionists what unionists did to them. Because there is room in 2017 or 2020 or whenever it happens for both traditions on the island with parity and esteem for all. Flag changes, anthem changes, public holiday changes - it's all up for grabs when the negotiation on unity happens. That is why there is now an opportunity to build on Brexit and last week's elections by just starting the conversation. A white paper on unity in the 21st century wouldn't go astray but won't come from this government.

There is a new Ireland in the offing if intelligent and forward thinking people can steer the direction properly over the next few years and especially when the Scots go independent.
good post, in the event of a united ireland id be more than happy if our anthem was to be changed to appease unionists, as long as its not arlands call
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:44 PM
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The ugliest people in the world are in northern Ireland.

Even the Irish in the south are better looking than those yokes.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:45 PM
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good post, in the event of a united ireland id be more than happy if our anthem was to be changed to appease unionists, as long as its not arlands call
Ireland's call needs to be done away with.
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The ugliest people in the world are in northern Ireland.
I'd have to second that.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:58 PM
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Fuck them up there, most of them in employment are working in Government jobs.

We cannot afford it and that is all about it.
Then we will have Unionist terrorists bombing down here.
The Republic of Ireland says NO.
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:12 PM
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This is Meridian like, of course he is wrong, it's about 30/35 percent public servants not most 😆
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:17 PM
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good post, in the event of a united ireland id be more than happy if our anthem was to be changed to appease unionists, as long as its not arlands call
Wouldya settle for "Arlene's call" ?
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:25 PM
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Wouldya settle for "Arlene's call" ?
No reason we can't do a South Africa on it and have some in Irish, some in Ulster Scots and some in English.
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:26 PM
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We are having this debate in the CA forum. To a degree, affordability should not come into it, but those against it will always bring it up. Personally I think an all Ireland economy would flourish and per the discussion we are having in the CA forum there would be a 36 billion dividend to unity.
That figure was based on a lot of assumptions that may or may not stack up.
The two main ones being harmonization of tax rates which will mean more foreign investment in the North, probably true, but will it come at the expense of the South and thus net net not yield any incremental gain over what would have been invested in any case?
Also secondly they assume the productivity gap will be closed, not sure why NI workers will be become more productive combined with the South as opposed to their current situation as part of the UK.

For the record I'd be in favour of a united Ireland but I'd be dubious of their figures. It took Germany 15 years to bring East Germany up to speed (probably still not fully there) and whilst there is no doubt they are stronger now there was a huge cost involved and they were coming at it from a position of far greater strength than we are.
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Wouldya settle for "Arlene's call" ?
as a tribute to arlene how about crocodile rock?
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