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Old 30-11-2010, 06:45 PM
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Although I don't want to turn my hobby into an obsession.

That may be an unavoidable reality heh heh.


For more instant results, you might look into game modification also,

modifying existing open source games, and in time adding new features to them, plenty of those written in C++....
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Old 30-11-2010, 06:48 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ce_video_games


This one shows the language used for each engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...source_engines
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Old 30-11-2010, 06:51 PM
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Cool, thanks for that. I am going to finish the Dummies book off, and then maybe try modifying some simple game.
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Old 30-11-2010, 07:10 PM
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No Probs! I think you might be overestimating the complicity of Pong.

This site looks perfect for coding C++ games with SDL, the code looks well explained and broken down:

http://www.aaroncox.net/tutorials/2d...als/index.html

Best to go through through the basics on that page first,

then click "2D Game Tutorials" on the left to find Pong,
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Old 30-11-2010, 07:19 PM
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Awesome. I know Pong might be fairly simple but I don't want to try something too complex and get put off.
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Old 30-11-2010, 07:19 PM
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It's has little to do with being a programming snob and more to do with BASIC teaching you exactly the wrong way to do everything. It will introduce you to the world of BASIC but not to the world of programming.
Do you not agree that it is one of easier intro's to OOProgramming?

I understand what you mean about it being the "wrong" way to programming,
but it's still a good way of breaking in new people (not daithi) imo.

At the end of the day, it still teaches the same basic principles, setting variables, creating classes, references etc... etc...

I think its less intimidating to advance to C++ via a knowdlege of VB,
than to try C++ as your first programming language from sctatch.
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Old 30-11-2010, 07:48 PM
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Do you not agree that it is one of easier intro's to OOProgramming?

I understand what you mean about it being the "wrong" way to programming,
but it's still a good way of breaking in new people (not daithi) imo.

At the end of the day, it still teaches the same basic principles, setting variables, creating classes, references etc... etc...

I think its less intimidating to advance to C++ via a knowdlege of VB,
than to try C++ as your first programming language from sctatch.
No.

VB is a mess.

No point in working your way into it. Before I went to university, I had only the briefest brushes with BASIC, but they threw us into a 3 month course of C programming. From October to December of first year (this was in 199, they got us programming properly:
http://www.ucc.ie/modules/descriptions/CS.html#CS1061

A certain percentage of the lads had barely used a computer.

No point in dicking about with a language that's going to give you bad habits and is best used to fuck up corporate microsoft templates...
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Old 30-11-2010, 07:59 PM
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1998?

I really am asking the wrong people!

Sure TLC would be as vintage also!

Sure THESE DAYS everything must be handed on a plate, or fed with a golden spoon,
so I should be asking the peeps that migrated to C++ from VB in the last few years!
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Old 30-11-2010, 08:31 PM
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1998?

I really am asking the wrong people!

Sure TLC would be as vintage also!

Sure THESE DAYS everything must be handed on a plate, or fed with a golden spoon,
so I should be asking the peeps that migrated to C++ from VB in the last few years!
I don't get your point. Especially not the bit in bold.

Are you suggesting that it's gotten easier to migrate from VB to C++?

Or that programming languages have changed fundamentally since then? The basics of C++ haven't changed that much, to my knowledge.

In any case, Parrotbait definitely knows what he's talking about, C/C++ are the best roads to go down, anything else is just a distraction. Takes more effort to learn VB and C/C++
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I don't get your point. Especially not the bit in bold.

Are you suggesting that it's gotten easier to migrate from VB to C++?

Or that programming languages have changed fundamentally since then? The basics of C++ haven't changed that much, to my knowledge.

Nope
My question was basically would it be easier for NEW PEOPLE if they bla bla.....


Of course the hardcore programmers are obviously going to automatically nitpick at the negatives of learning VB.

I can just see a potential risk in newbies becoming overwhelmed when learning C++ as their first language,
compared to newbies learning VB as their first, having a bit of fun, getting a feel for programming, and then advancing onto C++.

Some people will take to it more naturally than others....

Edit: When i was making that point about VB i meant newbies learning programming in general,
i wasn't specifying about game development.
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