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Old 04-04-2019, 06:43 AM
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And replace him with who? Not exactly swimming in top class IC managers down here at the moment.

I actually believe that given time KOD can turn the ship around, but those of us who love Cork football need to pull together and roll up our sleeves and get stuck in to help rejuvenate Football in Cork,not only IC but our club scene which is dying on its feet due to years of neglect by County Board and club administrators.

Listening to Tracy speak about football is like listening to Nigel Farage talking about European integration and acceptance. Tracy is the ultimate spindoctor, talking nonesense about a subject she knows very little about.

KOD comes frm a dual club and understands what is needed to get us back on our feet. What is need now is not another knee jerk reaction which has been the hallmark of football here for as long as anyone can remember.

We need to deliver coaches who can go into clubs and raise the standard of pur club players and raise the standard of club football.

We need to concentrate more on our schools and start succeeding at Corn Ui Mhuiri level which brings players through to our County minor team, using this in conjunction with our development squads and we might be able win AI minor titles.

This success would then lead onto players who are better developed to cope with the rigours of Senior IC football. Yes we need to augment these players with top class S&C coaches and data analysts but without working on our grassroots first, which is the crux of the 5 yr plan, which is only an initial plan which will develop and grow as time goes on.

If we have to endure beatings at the hands of Kerry for a few years, well fine, it happened in the 70's and 80's and we managed to turn the corner again and we went through the greatest era of Cork football.

We all have a passion for football, otherwise why would we post on here. But we need to start backing people like KOD who is trying to change attitudes and decades of neglect, if we get things wrong under his watch so what, we'll have to learn the lessons and go again.

No body said getting back to the top of the game would be easy but we cannot give up and start infighting as usual. Its now we need to stand strong to bring Cork football back to where we all know it shpuld belong
Good post...Look we all know John Cleary should have got the post after Conor, why not now do everything possible to get him to come in...he builds his own team from scatch...so maybe starting from Div 3 might not be a bad thing provided we get the right man to build a new young team...get some fresh blood in the likes of Michael O Cronin, Maurice Moore, Noel O Leary and a coach from Kerry who will help us change the way we play and we can learn from him...there are plenty of them living in Cork....This management team would get these players to believe in themselves again and that would be a huge start.....
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:20 AM
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He said 70s and 80s
Fair enough - exclude Skibb in early 1990s (although it did help win Munster minor titles in 1991 and 1992)- general point still stands. Cork schools were at least competitive in the 1970s and 1980s and it wasn't all just down to CCR.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:48 PM
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didnt realise Cork teams did so well in Corn ui Mhuiri-1978 to 1991 winning 13 out of the 14 titles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_U%C3%AD_Mhuir%C3%AD
Not sure how many of those winning teams would have gone on to play for example in the 1989/90 all ireland senior winning team-S O´Brien, T Nation?
I think schools level is just one small part of the jigsaw. Where we have fallen down in recent years is poor managment, poor coaching , poor elite player development.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:30 PM
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didnt realise Cork teams did so well in Corn ui Mhuiri-1978 to 1991 winning 13 out of the 14 titles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_U%C3%AD_Mhuir%C3%AD
Not sure how many of those winning teams would have gone on to play for example in the 1989/90 all ireland senior winning team-S O´Brien, T Nation?
I think schools level is just one small part of the jigsaw. Where we have fallen down in recent years is poor managment, poor coaching , poor elite player development.
I think they are a big part of the jigsaw.
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Old 06-04-2019, 10:55 AM
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I think they are a big part of the jigsaw.
Given the number of schools in the county I wouldn’t agree. Plenty smaller schools with fantastic players. The academy Mallow won the C all ireland a few weeks ago and in Conor Corbett they have probably the outstanding young forward in the county
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Old 06-04-2019, 02:11 PM
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In Kerry and Kilkenny boys go to the Sem and Kierans just to play top level schools. In Cork (and Dublin) its different although its probably a sign of how healthy things are. Our last four AISF winning teams came on the back of multiple U21 winning teams.
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Old 06-04-2019, 02:18 PM
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Schools GAA in Cork is flying these days, credit where it is due.
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