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Old 21-11-2019, 09:07 PM
Jukka Jukka is offline
 
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They're bringing new legislation to make it tighter who can bring appeals, basically ruling out lone wolf cases like this unless they are directly impacted. Ridiculous that's it's taken so long. It should have been a priority to sort out before the gastric bypass job of the SHD.
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Old 21-11-2019, 10:50 PM
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Maximum impact though: objections like this can delay the whole project and cost developers thousands. It also enables the objector to withdraw the objection and allow the project to go ahead.

Maybe developers could pay solitary objectors to withdraw these last minute objections?
Maybe she has a point about the scale of it. It's important anyone who wants to have a say and make reasonable objections can do so. You don't want to be left with a huge pile of shite in ten years time with everyone in Cork calling it a disgrace it got planning...yet nobody objected.

Looking at the monstrosity being built by the train station at the moment it looks like it could be extremely ugly. Hopefully the finished product won't be as awful as I suspect it might.
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Old 22-11-2019, 09:43 AM
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Maybe she has a point about the scale of it. It's important anyone who wants to have a say and make reasonable objections can do so. You don't want to be left with a huge pile of shite in ten years time with everyone in Cork calling it a disgrace it got planning...yet nobody objected.

Looking at the monstrosity being built by the train station at the moment it looks like it could be extremely ugly. Hopefully the finished product won't be as awful as I suspect it might.
Obviously in her opinion she does but shouldn't she be making these observations during the planning process rather than when the development is approved? She doesn't have a hope of the issues she has brought up being looked at in any serious manner and if they are then it will only be minor changes. For example the scale of a development could be altered slightly but this has been identified as suitable scale already so why would they back track and of course then there is the absolute ridiculous type of suggestion such as putting a long boat by the event's centre!!!

On the Horgan's Quay development itself I think it will look well when it finished (https://www.horgansquay.com/overview/) and with other developments coming on stream on Custom House Quay and the south docklands it won't look out of place at all. In any case we need these higher densities and bigger developments for multiple reasons.

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Old 22-11-2019, 10:52 AM
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Maybe she has a point about the scale of it. It's important anyone who wants to have a say and make reasonable objections can do so. You don't want to be left with a huge pile of shite in ten years time with everyone in Cork calling it a disgrace it got planning...yet nobody objected.

Looking at the monstrosity being built by the train station at the moment it looks like it could be extremely ugly. Hopefully the finished product won't be as awful as I suspect it might.
Generally large buildings covered in glazing are cool as the reflect light snd their surroundings.

Personslly i prefer tall building to be wedge shaped or stepped as it looks nicer.
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Old 22-11-2019, 02:54 PM
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https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Cor...e1a76871bf0-ds


Carrigtohill Village plans lodged.
850 jobs, no more painful detours at Kildare.

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Old 22-11-2019, 08:44 PM
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Maximum impact though: objections like this can delay the whole project and cost developers thousands. It also enables the objector to withdraw the objection and allow the project to go ahead.

Maybe developers could pay solitary objectors to withdraw these last minute objections?
That's an interesting take on it, and a fair point.
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Old 23-11-2019, 08:20 AM
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Carrigtohill Village plans lodged.
850 jobs, no more painful detours at Kildare.
Environmental campaigners intend to object to Kildare Village-style outlet centre in Cork


https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Environmental-campaigners-intend-to-object-to-Kildare-Village-style-outlet-centre-in-Cork--f68a752a-7b44-48f8-8ffe-a422bcac1d8b-ds


Jesus wept. Fuck off back to Glengarriff you backward looking crank
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Old 23-11-2019, 10:30 AM
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this type of thing has been proven to make shit of provincial towns in myriad ways, (see France)

Can't see why people would be on board with it
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Old 23-11-2019, 11:01 AM
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Carrigtohill Village plans lodged.
850 jobs, no more painful detours at Kildare.
Would be one of the worst planning decisions in Cork's history. Hopefully it goes absolutely nowhere.
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Old 23-11-2019, 02:34 PM
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Would be one of the worst planning decisions in Cork's history. Hopefully it goes absolutely nowhere.
Why?

The transport infrastructure is there with motorway and rail.

I'm well familiar with the site, it would be a massive boost for the region.
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