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Old 21-07-2011, 09:39 AM
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The Blackberry playbook is a bit of a bodge of a product. You can't even email properly on it without a blackberry phone.

But anyway, my problem is that I have a girleen back in England who wants a Macbook. She'd prefer a 13" Air. I'd like to justify buying one, but I can't.

It's shiny and cool so she'll get it. {and then she can have the Macbook }..eventually.

Just reading between the lines ....
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Old 21-07-2011, 09:48 AM
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You got it, Wallace.
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Old 21-07-2011, 12:09 PM
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The oft wheeled out argument of "The only reason Apple is doing well is because of marketing " needs to become the tech version of godwins law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Old 21-07-2011, 12:19 PM
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The oft wheeled out argument of "The only reason Apple is doing well is because of marketing " needs to become the tech version of godwins law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Not really.

It's perfectly valid to say that, from an electronics point of view, they're horrifically overpriced.

Mechanics and SW are probably better than the alternatives, but the former is definitely a function of style and marketing, the latter is heavily influenced by the style and marketing.

Many of the practices they engage in have been tried by competitors but rejected. Sony used to get dog's abuse for using their own music manager for their hardware, yet it's perfectly acceptable for the iPod.

But anyway, this argument is a tedious one.
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Old 21-07-2011, 02:14 PM
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The oft wheeled out argument of "The only reason Apple is doing well is because of marketing " needs to become the tech version of godwins law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Are you implying that the Marketing argument is one that is overkill and thus irrelevant to any arguments about Apple's blind disregard to meeting the industry standard as regards Hardware, and thus totally ignoring Moore's Law when it comes to offering any tangible benefits either in price or in their new products compared to those released over a year ago?

In short, they are recreating every mistake that other computer company's have made in the past, and are creating new ones, they are totally ripping people off and the only reason why they are succeeding is because they are focusing their marketing efforts on gullible idiots, who are in a growing number, if this continues then they will succeed in turning the Internet into an interactive television for all intensive purposes, one so limited and expensive that it will barely resemble the net in its current form.

Their devices are essentially becoming overpriced shopping trolleys for Apples substandard software.

I wouldn't be caught dead with one of their polycarbonate bricks.
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Old 21-07-2011, 02:31 PM
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You're still coming across like a zealot there.

I suspect you've never owned an Apple product while coming to this conclusion?

Whatever about the hardware, one thing Apple doesn't do is sub-standard software. I never saw anything in the Windows marketplace that compared to the iLife suite.

Mac OS X is fundamentally a user-friendly skin on top of BSD anyway and you'll find it hard to find anyone who doesn't think that UNIX is a better operating system than Windows; it's stability over the years demonstrates that. Perhaps it's not as user-friendly, but that's what Apple's skin tries to resolve.
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Old 21-07-2011, 02:57 PM
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Are you implying that the Marketing argument is one that is overkill and thus irrelevant to any arguments about Apple's blind disregard to meeting the industry standard as regards Hardware, and thus totally ignoring Moore's Law when it comes to offering any tangible benefits either in price or in their new products compared to those released over a year ago?

In short, they are recreating every mistake that other computer company's have made in the past, and are creating new ones, they are totally ripping people off and the only reason why they are succeeding is because they are focusing their marketing efforts on gullible idiots, who are in a growing number, if this continues then they will succeed in turning the Internet into an interactive television for all intensive purposes, one so limited and expensive that it will barely resemble the net in its current form.

Their devices are essentially becoming overpriced shopping trolleys for Apples substandard software.

I wouldn't be caught dead with one of their polycarbonate bricks.
You're right.

Everybody is the world that has ever bought a Mac has done so for the sole reason it was marketed to them in an attractive way.

I find so amusing that people that go on about the smugness of Apple users are so themselves unbearably smug in assuming the rest of the population are idiots who buy things for a logo.
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Old 21-07-2011, 02:59 PM
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Seeing as How I can't afford a new Mac

I'm having a look at what I can steal.


I'm thinking Ubuntu seems to be the poor mans MacOSX ?

What say those who have linux



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Old 21-07-2011, 03:11 PM
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Ubuntu Linux is in many ways where MacOS X was 5-10 years ago. A decent operating system for which it's hard to get the software you want.

Although I think Linux will eventually grow to critical mass, I suspect Chrome OS is favourite to be the dominant flavour once it does.
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Old 21-07-2011, 03:19 PM
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I'm still waiting for Haiku to come out of alpha



Might give it a go though , seems to have overcome some of the difficulties it was having with modern specced hardware .




I cried when Szeleny parked SkyOS ...
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