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Its absolutely credible source. You just don't like what it says.

I would say that article is not credible

Perhaps the study itself is but based on statement of "limitations" by the Author it likely is not.

The study you quote states a range of participants ranging from age 14 to 41 who are mostly untrained.

So which results are comparable for lean mass and performance is it pre and post transition, is it against comparably untrained females? What protocols were followed for testing of Aerobic performance and Upper and lower body strength?

The untrained part is significant. A male duffer who transitions is just a trans female duffer. But in sport specifically small percentages matter.

Here is the IOC policy document on retained advantage of Males and the protection of the female category.


This statement was not arrived at casually it sets out the working group studying male advantage and their conclusions which based on trained elite populations were that the retained male advantage is

Magnitude of Advantage: At the elite level, the magnitude of the Male performance advantage is
different depending on the sport or event:
o There is a 10-12 per cent Male performance advantage in most running and swimming
events.
o There is a 20+ per cent Male performance advantage in most throwing and jumping
events.
o The Male performance advantage can be greater than 100 per cent in events that involve
explosive power, e.g. in collision, lifting and punching sports.


The quoted article seems to be specifically arguing against participation barriers in non elite sport..There is a social argument here for sure. Not one I agree with because what is sport if it is not fair.

Kids and Adults need those moments of success however meaningless to everyone else, it's why we do it it's why we train and chase PBs ar Park run or wear a 10k "marathon" medal in town when we're on the piss. Why would we reduce the opportunity for Girls to experience those moments..

Trans Females can participate in the open category within their own Phenotype..No problem.
 
Then why on earth would you quote from the website of a quack who has a string of conviction and suspensions for negligent and harmful treatment of patients?
Because she isn't a quack.
On what planet can she be considered an unbiased voice on this?
I never said she was unbiased. Almost no voice in this debate is.
Impartial sources on sex-based performance differences would typically engage with the full body of evidence.

Namely male puberty confers durable advantages in strength, skeletal structure, muscle fiber composition, lung/heart size, etc., that testosterone suppression does not fully reverse (supported by sports governing bodies' policies and physiological reviews). Webberley's output selectively emphasizes studies with limitations (small samples, non-elite athletes, short durations, lab metrics) while dismissing or re-framing counter-evidence.


Not a credible source
Saying that a study has limitations, which is certainly does, doesn't make it not credible.
 
Because she isn't a quack.

Would you prefer convicted, disgraced doctor who has had her license revoked?

Guapo knows far more about this than me. If he says its not credible that's good enough for me

Id put that woman's thoughts on trans athletes competing against women up there with gardening tips by Fred West.
 
Would you prefer convicted, disgraced doctor who has had her license revoked?

Guapo knows far more about this than me. If he says its not credible that's good enough for me

Id put that woman's thoughts on trans athletes competing against women up there with gardening tips by Fred West.
But shur you were never going to accept this, because of your pre existing views.

You are intent on demonising trans people in every way that you can.
 
Not this study, in my view.
Based on what?

The meta study looked at testing used from untrained populations.

Does not (in this article) detail protocols for testing nor does it quote ranges or median values. No confidence intervals or indications of distributions within the age categories.

Single numbers are worthless without context.

What we do know is the conclusion being drawn here differs significantly from similar studies completed by world authorities on the matter with access to better and more representative datasets.
 
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You quoted the website of a disgraced doctor.
She didn't do the research.
Take the pwn, move on with your life.
A pwn from someone who believes that trans people can't compete in sport, can't use their preferred pronouns, can't used an appropriate bathroom.

A pwn from someone who would rather align themselves with a religious fundamentalist than allow for the rights of a transgender child.

A pwn from someone who believes that trans people should be mocked and marginalised out of some sort of "won't someone think of the children" hysteria.

I think i'll survive...
 
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