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Will Holly Cairns improve the chances of the fledging Social Democrats

We are fucked either way, stick with what we have and most issues will remain, Elect a left wing alliance and we could see some fruit cakes in ministerial roles
Erh, you did have Roderick O'Gorman and Joe O'Brien (look at what he's up to at the ICCL these days) in the last government.
 
This view that the left hates Shatter is weird to me.
I knew staff of ministers from the time of that coalition and he was viewed as almost a Labour minister, at times, by many.
He was, apparently, a massive dissenting voice against some of FGs more draconian ideas

Without being economically suicidal as PBP, and definitely very pro increase in defense spending (particularly navy/air/cyber) I would be further left than many Labour supporters and other than his, seemingly, blind support of Israel Shatter is better than most FG.
His biggest failing, to me, was around Callinan but why would "the left" hate him?
 
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This view that the left hates Shatter is weird to me.
I knew staff of ministers from the time of that coalition and he was viewed as almost a Labour minister, at times, by many.
He was, apparently, a massive dissenting voice against some of FGs more draconian ideas

Without being economically suicidal as PBP, and definitely very pro increase in defense spending (particularly navy/air/cyber) I would be further left than many Labour supporters and other than his, seemingly, blind support of Israel Shatter is better than most FG.
His biggest failing, to me, was around Callinan but why would "the left" hate him?
It's probably mainly to do with Israel but a lot of the Left have a negative view of Jews as financiers and as first-class intellectuals. Gannon and Gibney are very much laggards to Shatter on the latter. Shatter was an easy scapegoat for Enda Kenny at the time of the McCabe affair. That he was aiming to reform the legal profession also meant FG were glad to see the back of him.
 
Gary Gannon is an absolute melt. He tries to blame the authorities for ongoing vandalism issues instead of calling out those responsible :

On the subject of arson attacks on playgrounds for example :

Gary Gannon, the Social Democrats TD for Dublin Central, says: “It creates a really hostile atmosphere. Locked gates around the city present the image of a city that people can’t access because of crime and the threat of crime.”

This area faces other issues – it has the highest concentration of homeless accommodation in the country, with one in 10 homeless people in Ireland living on Gardiner Street.

“These parks are not just being closed because kids burnt some of the facilities, they’re closed because of bad planning and bad procedure,” Gannon says. “The city council is basically putting a huge number of people with very complex issues into an area, [they are] trying to barter for drugs, you are going to have these young people going around on scooters meeting that need, and they are hanging around in parks while they are waiting to do that.”
This area faces other issues – it has the highest concentration of homeless accommodation in the country, with one in 10 homeless people in Ireland living on Gardiner Street.

“These parks are not just being closed because kids burnt some of the facilities, they’re closed because of bad planning and bad procedure,” Gannon says. “The city council is basically putting a huge number of people with very complex issues into an area, [they are] trying to barter for drugs, you are going to have these young people going around on scooters meeting that need, and they are hanging around in parks while they are waiting to do that.”

 
Gary Gannon is an absolute melt. He tries to blame the authorities for ongoing vandalism issues instead of calling out those responsible :

On the subject of arson attacks on playgrounds for example :

Gary Gannon, the Social Democrats TD for Dublin Central, says: “It creates a really hostile atmosphere. Locked gates around the city present the image of a city that people can’t access because of crime and the threat of crime.”

This area faces other issues – it has the highest concentration of homeless accommodation in the country, with one in 10 homeless people in Ireland living on Gardiner Street.

“These parks are not just being closed because kids burnt some of the facilities, they’re closed because of bad planning and bad procedure,” Gannon says. “The city council is basically putting a huge number of people with very complex issues into an area, [they are] trying to barter for drugs, you are going to have these young people going around on scooters meeting that need, and they are hanging around in parks while they are waiting to do that.”
This area faces other issues – it has the highest concentration of homeless accommodation in the country, with one in 10 homeless people in Ireland living on Gardiner Street.

“These parks are not just being closed because kids burnt some of the facilities, they’re closed because of bad planning and bad procedure,” Gannon says. “The city council is basically putting a huge number of people with very complex issues into an area, [they are] trying to barter for drugs, you are going to have these young people going around on scooters meeting that need, and they are hanging around in parks while they are waiting to do that.”

I like Gary Gannon. He is good for the city. His policies are also good that of those of the Social Democrats, mind you I used to like Alan Shatter too but the whole Zionism support turns me off him but he was a reforming minister. When I was younger my family brought me to the Zoo and we met him there. Don't remember him but he was the first Minister I ever saw.
 
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This view that the left hates Shatter is weird to me.
I knew staff of ministers from the time of that coalition and he was viewed as almost a Labour minister, at times, by many.
He was, apparently, a massive dissenting voice against some of FGs more draconian ideas

Without being economically suicidal as PBP, and definitely very pro increase in defense spending (particularly navy/air/cyber) I would be further left than many Labour supporters and other than his, seemingly, blind support of Israel Shatter is better than most FG.
His biggest failing, to me, was around Callinan but why would "the left" hate him?

Irish Labour were never traditionally left wing in the way their Euroean counterparts were. Essentially it is the party of the Public sector unions and any policy or strategy proposed by government is always viewed by Labour through the viewpoint of "will it affect public sector workers". Shaft the poor and oppressed by all means but don't make changes to public secor flexi-time arrangements or other entitlements!!
 
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