Will Holly Cairns improve the chances of the fledging Social Democrats

[KolaKubes]

A tad ironic that the church are getting all the praise for educating the masses I think.

While they were happy to provide primary education, the provision of free post-primary education to the masses from the late 1960s was seen as a major factor in the relative demise of the church and its vice-like grip on the hearts and minds of the masses. Little wonder that the bishops were against its introduction.

Ah here, too revisionist to ignore the role the church played in our education here. The church really only went to the dark place it went after independence when the two main parties (most especially FF) saw allying with them as a way of cementing power.

We’d a PP in the hill years ago said how he was now down to a key to his house, his car and the church itself contrasting it with long ago when they’d have had keys to everything. It was a good example and he said what it had become was so much better.

I feel sorry for the many, many good priests that had their whole life’s vocation twisted wherein day to day they must ultimately have experienced people being wary of leaving their kids talk to them. Imagine like.

 

[KolaKubes]

Wouldn’t let the name of the school deter you KK. OLOL isn’t a fervently religious school any more than most

Tis.

 

[Yermon]

Tis.

Must have changed dramatically from when I was on the Parent's Association there then.

 

[KolaKubes]

Must have changed dramatically from when I was on the Parent's Association there then.

Were there any foreigners there that time?

 

[Yermon]

Were there any foreigners there that time?

A few. Though none on the Parents Council - why do you ask? Surely the foreigners aren't arch-Catholics forcing their "foreign religious practices" on others are they?

 

[KolaKubes]

A few. Though none on the Parents Council - why do you ask? Surely the foreigners aren't arch-Catholics forcing their "foreign religious practices" on others are they?

It’s been commented how white the school is.

Given the abundance of single sex schools in the city (wtf btw) and strong Catholic ethos in schools in the city anyway (even compared to what I grew up with tbh) that it has a reputation for being even more Catholic is notable.

 

[Yermon]

It’s been commented how white the school is.

Given the abundance of single sex schools in the city (wtf btw) and strong Catholic ethos in schools in the city anyway (even compared to what I grew up with tbh) that it has a reputation for being even more Catholic is notable.

Must confess I'd no impression that it was particularly RC in the ethos any more than St Anthony's Boys school down the road for instance. All female staff though. And one of them was an absolute lasher it has to be said. Going back about 15 years I'd say

 

[outdagap]

I’d lie somewhere between getting the ick at hard right schools like Our Lady of Lourdes and rolling my eyes at the Educate Togethers. I’m lucky to just have the one very good local NS which I’m sure the nice local PP is involved in.

Secondary school, sending them to my old one seems obvious. But single sex & I’m pretty sure we all hated each other and the school (by design, maybe?) when we finished - against that as a group they’d compare very favourably with the toxic masculinity ex Christians lads (and toxic masculinity of the Scoil Mhuire girls) and gooey Ashton types. I suppose Pres but they seem too smug and well adjusted, I’m not sure that’s a good thing to engender.

There's certainly a lot of toxic masculinity in Pres and Christians for sure, though generally, academically both produce the goods, and they do make friends for life (as well as contacts). Had I our time over again, I wouldn't have allowed him play rugby in Pres, especially because of one particular person who is utterly toxic. Hindsight is ....

 

[outdagap]

A few. Though none on the Parents Council - why do you ask? Surely the foreigners aren't arch-Catholics forcing their "foreign religious practices" on others are they?

Actually, it's quite possible that they would be, especially the Poles and Filipinos who seem to be far more into unquestioning Catholicism that a lot of the Irish.

 

[Yermon]

Actually, it's quite possible that they would be, especially the Poles and Filipinos who seem to be far more into unquestioning Catholicism that a lot of the Irish.

Yeah, since the various scandals here involving the RC church the faith of many was shook and most under the age of 50 I'd guess aren't very religious at all, though still nominally RC. But I can't see the Poles and/or Fillipinos trying to ram their relative uber-RCness down anybody's throat tbh.

Saw a great caption recently

"Shout out to all those who had pre-marriage sex but won't eat meat on Friday because it's a sin"