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Trump is back baby!

Who will win the debate

  • Trump

    Votes: 17 33.3%
  • Harris

    Votes: 22 43.1%
  • I genuinely don’t care at this stage

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
Why don't Europe and Zelensky cut Trump/USA out of negotiations and cut a deal with Vlad directly?

1. Vlad will not deal with Europe as it is his suicide then
2. Vlad and Trump have their agenda
3. Europe is too dependant on after 80 years of alliance with the US to just cut this loonie out. Needs time.
4. Cutting the US out now will result in revenge and will weaken Europe further and this is what Vlad needs.
5. All above would potentially destroy the EU and we would be partitioned between the US and russia. What Vlad and Donnie want.
 
1. Vlad will not deal with Europe as it is his suicide then
2. Vlad and Trump have their agenda
3. Europe is too dependant on after 80 years of alliance with the US to just cut this loonie out. Needs time.
4. Cutting the US out now will result in revenge and will weaken Europe further and this is what Vlad needs.
5. All above would potentially destroy the EU and we would be partitioned between the US and russia. What Vlad and Donnie want.
Why didn't Biden try bring a deal to the table?
Why did Europe and Biden sit on their hands for the two years before Trump was elected regards a deal?
Why are they now discussing a deal? Because Trump and Vlad are in cahoots? Two tramps
It will be interesting to see how much Europe and American made from arms over the two years before Trump was elected.
 
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Why didn't Biden try bring a deal to the table?
Why did Europe and Biden sit on their hands for the two years before Trump was elected regards a deal?
Why are they now discussing a deal? Because Trump and Vlad are in cahoots? Two tramps
It will be interesting to see how much Europe and American made from arms over the two years before Trump was elected.
This isn’t about a “deal”. This is about the terms of surrender by Ukraine. The surrender of Ukraine to Russia has always been on the table (as you put it).

Trump is not interested about ending the war in order to save money or saving the children or whatever. (US military spending has never been linked to potential outside events). Trump wants to make Europe we weaker and Russia stronger in order to build this pre-WW2 world he is trying to build.

How much money did the US and Europe make from arms sales? Are you serious? These represent massive losses of cash.

So what’s you agenda here?
 
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