The Religion Poisons Everything Thread

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/28/family-son-coming-out-gay-video_n_5731462.html



Family Has Horrifying, Violent Reaction To Son's Coming Out As Gay (GRAPHIC CONTENT)
The Huffington Post | By Cavan Sieczkowski

Sometimes coming-out stories are heartwarming tales of acceptance and love. Other times they are tragic accounts of abandonment and abuse.

Daniel Ashley Pierce, a 20-year-old from Georgia, came out as gay last October. At the time, his father was unresponsive and his stepmother seemed supportive. However, things took a turn for the worse Wednesday when Pierce found himself a part of what he describes as a "delayed intervention" involving his father, stepmother and grandparents. He apparently captured footage of the interaction on camera.

"I wanted to make sure there was evidence in case something happened," Pierce told The Huffington Post in an email Thursday.

WARNING: Video at bottom of post may be disturbing.

Pierce's video began going viral after it was posted by Dan Savage with Seattle's The Stranger. In the five-minute clip, which does not focus on any individual's face, the people in the room with Pierce can be heard telling him his sexuality is a choice. When he disputes that, they use religion as an argument.

"No, you can believe that if you want to," a woman, presumably his grandmother, can be heard saying, "but I believe in the word of God, and God creates nobody that way. It's a path that you have chosen to choose. ... You go by all the scientific stuff you want to. I'm going by the word of God." She goes on to say that since Pierce has "chosen that path" they will no longer support him and he needs to move out because she "will not let people believe that I condone what you do."

Pierce asks his stepmother if he can stay in the house, but she refuses.

"You're full of s**t," she says. "You told me on the phone that you made that choice. You know you wasn't born that way. You know damn good and well you made that choice. You know that [your father] has done everything he can to raise you. ... He didn't need to blame himself."

At this point, an apparent physical altercation occurs. The camera starts moving, and Pierce can be heard yelling to the woman to stop hitting him. A man yells, "You're a damn queer." At the end of the video, someone calls him "a disgrace."

Pierce took to Facebook to discuss what happened Wednesday:

What a day.... i thought that waking up at 9:48 and being 15 mins late to work was going to be the biggest problem today. but i didn't know that my biggest problem was going to be getting disowned and kicked out of my home of almost twenty years. to add insult to injury my step mother punched me in the face repeatedly with my grandmother cheering her along. i am still in complete shock and disbelief [all sic].

"Their reaction was pretty much expected [once] I chose to leave instead of pray because they have always been very vocal about not supporting the gay lifestyle," he told HuffPost. "My [stepmother's] reaction was the most surprising and hurtful."

The family members involved in the intervention, which he says was "driven by my grandparents," have not contacted the media, but they left Pierce a voicemail telling him to remove the video of the incident from YouTube. Pierce also says he did not contact police over the apparent altercation in the video.

The footage, originally posted by Pierce's friend, had more than 700,000 views, as of Thursday afternoon. Pierce's story has been covered by the Advocate, the Daily Dot and the New Civil Rights Movement. A GoFundMe campaign was set up to help raise money to cover Pierce's living expenses; by Thursday, it had collected more than $19,000.
 

Matlock

Full Member
I think the problem is more those people than their religion.

Many many religious parents support and accept their LGBT children.
 
I think the problem is more those people than their religion.

Many many religious parents support and accept their LGBT children.

They'd be Southern Baptists or Born Again Christians, most likely. The leaders of those churches are perfectly open about their policies, and it's the same stuff that kid is facing.

Their religion is the problem, and that's indisputable.
 

Roxetten

Full Member
What's the current Catholic Church stance on homosexuality?

Presumably it's "the love the sinner hate the sin" vibe but even so I very much doubt that an Irish gay person would in this day and age experience anything like what is portrayed in that video, those parents are probably not the most sophisticated folks and in any case it isn't fair to take their actions as being typical of how Christian parents react to their children coming out, if they were clued in as parents they would already have realised that the child was gay before he came out.

I think the behaviour of the parents in the video is abhorrent by the way.
 

Matlock

Full Member
What's the current Catholic Church stance on homosexuality?

Softening.

'If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem…they’re our brothers.' - Pope Francis.
 
Softening.

'If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem…they’re our brothers.' - Pope Francis.

Not trying to be smart here but that doesn't really answer my question.

What is the actual stance?

Is it a sin to be a homosexual?
 
Softening.

'If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem…they’re our brothers.' - Pope Francis.

By the way, going by that quote is it to taken that the Pope doesn't judge people as long as they accept the Lord.

So if I don't accept his Lord does he judge me?
 

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