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Megelus

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Depth from academy level is the major thing. Leinster have more prospects coming through they could ever hope to meaningfully use.

Not all superstars but they could probably have close to 2 fully fledged provincial sized panels and the lower level squad would beat Munster more than Munster could beat the top team.
 

The Judge

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Depth from academy level is the major thing. Leinster have more prospects coming through they could ever hope to meaningfully use.

Not all superstars but they could probably have close to 2 fully fledged provincial sized panels and the lower level squad would beat Munster more than Munster could beat the top team.
This is part of Munsters problem.Not playing the long game and fast tracking foreign players into the team.Very few are here for the long haul and then our young academy players lose interest or become disillusioned and leave.Much the same with management,there has been no continuity with a game plan or strategy.Sadly our results reflect that and a lot of dinosaurs are still in the backroom staff being paid.There needs to be a major overhaul and clear out at this stage or Munster will never progress.
 
Depth from academy level is the major thing. Leinster have more prospects coming through they could ever hope to meaningfully use.

Not all superstars but they could probably have close to 2 fully fledged provincial sized panels and the lower level squad would beat Munster more than Munster could beat the top team.
This is part of Munsters problem.Not playing the long game and fast tracking foreign players into the team.Very few are here for the long haul and then our young academy players lose interest or become disillusioned and leave.Much the same with management,there has been no continuity with a game plan or strategy.Sadly our results reflect that and a lot of dinosaurs are still in the backroom staff being paid.There needs to be a major overhaul and clear out at this stage or Munster will never progress.
The Academy are sending through a good few players now, the Wasps away game showed that, then you add Coombes, Kendellen, Hodnett, Daly to that and it’s not in a bad place at all. I’m still convinced Leinster are benefitting from a “rising tide raises all boats” effect too. Sure they have stand out talent like Kelliher and Sheehan but a brilliant coaching setup helps the others. It will be interesting to see how the likes of O’Loughlin and Dunne get on in Exeter and the same for the lads going west, I think there’ll be a noticeable drop off.

To Judge’s point I don’t think there’s been any issue with fast tracking foreign players, in the vast majority of cases there’s been no issue, Cloete has always played games more suited to his skill set which no other player has, Jenkins started ahead of Aherne and lost that spot quickly. Aherne IMO is as good as Baird and definitley as good as McCarthy despite what the commentators and columnists will try to tell us.
Munster are now in a position where the IRFU need to be realistic and realise that there’s a need for quality NIQs now, especially in hooker, tight head and a utility back. Leinster had a worry about Furlong and went out and signed Ala’atola (sp?) and now sit with him benching ahead of Clarkson.
 

How bad boy

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A positive spin on that result is that it is a shock to the system, right when it is needed, before Rowntree takes charge.
A humiliation like this cannot be ignored.

It gives Munster a target, beat Leinster. Which is a pretty good target because they're almost certainly the best team in Europe. If Munster can beat Leinster, then they'll be able to beat almost any other team in Europe.

So it gives Munster a target, a chip on their shoulder and a new management team who can't simply keep up business as usual.

Yes, that's a very optimistic spin on it...
 

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