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The Official Man Utd Thread - Part 3.

I couldnt care less tbh, but Sesko being top of the list is laughable.

I just found it funny that in 2 months where a 116 million pound signing has produced exactly nothing, a striker who has had an okay start gets it.

As I keep saying, they all want to talk about United. Click click click.......

Firstly, in any window where Sancho makes a move (loan or perm) then that move is the worst of the window - unquestionably :ROFLMAO:

I'd generally be more inclined to vote for transfers where clubs spent a decent chunk of money on players who either fundamentally aren't good enough or spent it on positions where there wasn't a strong enough need - neither of which is true in Sesko's case. They needed a striker and he's better than Hoijlund.

Garnacho, although the fee was at a deep discount to what he'd have gone for 12 months ago, seemed like a bad investment based on his attitute & the fact that Chelsea are stockpiling guys in his position. They really needed an experienced centre-back, so that was a really bad squad-building decision.

Wissa I like but it's a chunky outlay given his age, but understandable given how much pressure Newcastle were under to get someone/anyone. On paper the Woltemade fee looked a bit toppy and it felt like a risky transfer - but he's settled really well, which for am expensive striker is a great indicator that his time at the club will go well overall.

Should Arsenal have signed Eze and Madueke? No imho. If they had extra funds burning a hole in their pocket they should've gone for a striker a level above Gyokeres.

The Isak & Wirtz signings will understandably garner a lot of attention because they were big sums of money. But both are top drawer players with a great age profile. I wouldn't get overly worked up about their slow start - esp. Isak who is PL-proven and only now approaching the fitness level that other players would've been at on gameweek 1.

Wirtz has undoubted quality, but needs to learn to deal better with the pace & physicality or he'll end up like another Veron.

Sancho has played 8 minutes at Villa.

Wissa hasn't started at Newcastle.

Trafford got 4 games for city before they signed a new keeper.

Garnacho not done much at Chelsea yet

I think the article states that it's based on discussions with agents over the last month or so. With that in mind it feels like it's less about "...who has started well/badly" and more about "...which transfers looked smart going into the season and will look smart long-term"

So if Howson is moaning on about minutes played by each player so far then he's missed the point a bit.

Let's talk about United.

...at least he makes sure that the Champions get some limelight - ta Ste. That'll get you some clicks.

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I'd generally be more inclined to vote for transfers where clubs spent a decent chunk of money on players who either fundamentally aren't good enough or spent it on positions where there wasn't a strong enough need - neither of which is true in Sesko's case. They needed a striker and he's better than Hoijlund.

The Isak & Wirtz signings will understandably garner a lot of attention because they were big sums of money. But both are top drawer players with a great age profile. I wouldn't get overly worked up about their slow start - esp. Isak who is PL-proven and only now approaching the fitness level that other players would've been at on gameweek 1.

Wirtz has undoubted quality, but needs to learn to deal better with the pace & physicality or he'll end up like another Veron.





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Hojlund has 8 goals in 9 games for club & country so far this season. Far too many people wrote him off, including at Utd which for a young forward isnt the right approach. Utd should have shipped off Zirkzee and kept him IMO, always believed there was a player in Hojlund.

Isaks fee makes him a target for sure and IMO he`s not worth it. He is a good player (way off the pace at the moment) but its top dollar because of the lack of quality out there more than anything else. Always hard to compare different eras but if he was playing 20/25 years ago he probably isnt in the top 5 forwards in the league, personal opinion obviously.

On Wirtz, i remember posting this on the Liverpool thread at the time..... I think the main issue is not knowing what to do with him. Paying a huge fee for a player that doesnt have an obvious fit into your current team/system was always going to come with a risk. He has already been tried in three or four positions (I think) and generally does nothing for the balance that the team had last year. Until he starts producing goals/assists then i think his signing will come under the most scrutiny of all the Summer signings to be honest.
 
Modric did.

Scholes did okay too I like to think.

And if you think two of the finest players to ever play the game wouldn't have cut it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke, well.....................

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I'd no opinion on him as I barely saw him play, but he got great reviews. And you'd expect something very special for that kind of money.

Agreed.
Ah shite, yes, Modric did.

Scholes was tough in fairness, poor defensively but tried.
 
Hojlund has 8 goals in 9 games for club & country so far this season. Far too many people wrote him off, including at Utd which for a young forward isnt the right approach. Utd should have shipped off Zirkzee and kept him IMO, always believed there was a player in Hojlund.

Not sure I'd agree. He was in a tough position as a young striker, no doubt, but he sank as opposed to swam.

He looked mentally broken towards the end. He really needed a move to get his career back on track.

Isaks fee makes him a target for sure and IMO he`s not worth it. He is a good player (way off the pace at the moment) but its top dollar because of the lack of quality out there more than anything else. Always hard to compare different eras but if he was playing 20/25 years ago he probably isnt in the top 5 forwards in the league, personal opinion obviously.

Hard to compare across eras alright. But in terms of #9s in world football right now there really aren't many better, hence the premium as you say.

On Wirtz, i remember posting this on the Liverpool thread at the time..... I think the main issue is not knowing what to do with him. Paying a huge fee for a player that doesnt have an obvious fit into your current team/system was always going to come with a risk. He has already been tried in three or four positions (I think) and generally does nothing for the balance that the team had last year. Until he starts producing goals/assists then i think his signing will come under the most scrutiny of all the Summer signings to be honest.

I'd agree with most of that tbh.

I think Slot may have a better idea of his first XI once Salah leaves than he does for this season.

But he needs to find a solution that works this season...soon.
 
Licha back training with the squad, definitely won't see him against the SSBs but maybe in the next few weeks.

I hope he can get back to somewhere close to the form he's showed in the past however after 3 serious injuries since he arrived the latest being knee ligament reconstruction it could take some time, I think he will need to slight alter his game and not fly into tackles where he doesn't need too.

His passing, tenacity and attitude is levels above Shaw and a back 3 of Yoro, De Ligt & Licha has the potential to be very solid and create plenty from the back but it will need time to settle and bed in.

 
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