The Official Liverpool Thread - Part 2

[Philby]

If he goes and scores the winner in the next game people will say he shouldn't have been on the pitch

Yep. Or if Arsenal lost the title to City by one goal

Unlikely I know. But you can't ref on vibes.

 

[Hoggys White Helmet]

If there was no VAR, am i right thinking that Haaland would have had advatage till he fouled Slob and because of that foul, play would come back for original foul
Or would the goal have stood.

 

[Philby]

If there was no VAR, am i right thinking that Haaland would have had advatage till he fouled Slob and because of that foul, play would come back for original foul

This.

Same outcome expected with or without VAR.

Or would the goal have stood.

Not this.

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

I don't get the hate for VAR (in this instance).

The rules of the game were applied accurately, albeit in a highly unusual scenario (...which is maybe why there's so much initial outrage)

Despite what GNev says you can't just ignore the rules because it would result in a better narrative.

They called it right.

The goal was given in play. If the letter of the law wouldn't give the goal the spirit of the law would.

So the refs made a minor mistake in allowing the goal in play. And then VAR happens and everyone is worse off. Liverpool are minus arguably their best player next game and City are minus a goal that may matter in May ( I won't have any sympathy for them, but its not the point).

But yeah, the rules were applied. Yiu know what I say?

Fuck VAR.

 

[Philby]

The goal was given in play. If the letter of the law wouldn't give the goal the spirit of the law would.

It was such an unusual scenario I'd imagine the ref felt that letting the play conclude was the safest option - knowing it'd give him time to think & for VAR to bail him out.

So the refs made a minor mistake in allowing the goal in play.

Any mistake which results in a goal standing which shouldn't isn't minor.

And then VAR happens and everyone is worse off. Liverpool are minus arguably their best player next game and City are minus a goal that may matter in May ( I won't have any sympathy for them, but its not the point).

But yeah, the rules were applied.

The rules don't exist to maximise the total positive outcomes for both teams from a given situation.

There's no situation where it should allowed for an attacker to manhandle a defender like that in order to get the ball over the line for a goal.

Yiu know what I say?

Fuck VAR.

In general, I agree.

 

[Barry K O Bama]

City were haunted to get the win and obviously then Liverpool were desperately unlucky to lose.

Liverpool played very well in the 2nd half and got a goal for the ages. Peak Ronaldo stuff.

The equalizer was mainly due to Slobo's inexperience at RB - down to injuries - no one to blame.

The penalty was very unfortunate as the chance was gone and the keepers momentum caused the clash. Again no blame to anyone.

The red card issue would not have happened in normal circumstance.

McAllister hit an unreal strike and probably was frustrated by the only keeper in EPL who could make that save.

Forwards should have converted a few of the 2nd half chances but Etikike and Wirtz are still finding their feet in English Football - takes time to adapt.

Pep will be well aware that he dodged a bullet today but that form won't close the gap to Arsenal.

I'd see Liverpool finishing 3rd. Chelsea have so much talent that they will stay in the race and Utd will struggle to finish 5th. Villa lack the depth to get top 4 IMO

Arsenal - City - Liverpool - Chelsea - Villa - Utd That's how I see it pan out

 

[SoundsAboutRight]

It was like a goal you'd see at lunch time in school when lads start messing towards the end after losing interest.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Arne Hodgson has my full confidence as manager of Lolpool football club.


Support your manager.

 

[nelly sham]

City were haunted to get the win and obviously then Liverpool were desperately unlucky to lose.

Liverpool played very well in the 2nd half and got a goal for the ages. Peak Ronaldo stuff.

The equalizer was mainly due to Slobo's inexperience at RB - down to injuries - no one to blame.

The penalty was very unfortunate as the chance was gone and the keepers momentum caused the clash. Again no blame to anyone.

The red card issue would not have happened in normal circumstance.

McAllister hit an unreal strike and probably was frustrated by the only keeper in EPL who could make that save.

Forwards should have converted a few of the 2nd half chances but Etikike and Wirtz are still finding their feet in English Football - takes time to adapt.

Pep will be well aware that he dodged a bullet today but that form won't close the gap to Arsenal.

I'd see Liverpool finishing 3rd. Chelsea have so much talent that they will stay in the race and Utd will struggle to finish 5th. Villa lack the depth to get top 4 IMO

Arsenal - City - Liverpool - Chelsea - Villa - Utd That's how I see it pan out

I'll have what she's having.

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

It was such an unusual scenario I'd imagine the ref felt that letting the play conclude was the safest option - knowing it'd give him time to think & for VAR to bail him out.



Any mistake which results in a goal standing which shouldn't isn't minor.

Really? You're 4 0 up in a cup final in the 90th minute and there was a tiny foul leading up to the fifth/consolation goal (i'm feeling generous take your pick) and the goal stands. Who's going to be upset by it?

I'd say that's pretty minor tbh. There was 15 seconds left today. Letting the goal stand would have been a minor event.

The rules don't exist to maximise the total positive outcomes for both teams from a given situation.

The advantage rule exists so the team that was impeded gets the better of the given situation whether the advantage is in play or a resultant free kick.

There's no situation where it should allowed for an attacker to manhandle a defender like that in order to get the ball over the line for a goal.

As I said, the letter of the law was carried out.

Have you ever heard the saying the law is an ass?