The Official Liverpool Thread - Part 2

[Philby]

Fair enough. I'm just shocked at Liverpool spending so much on one player . Man city/utd and maybe Arsenal yes but it doesn't seem to be the Liverpool way so they must really rate him especially since they more or less got a free run at him once he decided to leave the bundsliga.

I dunno.

Under FSG, Liverpool have showed a willingness to selectively go big fee-wise on a player if they really think he's got the potential to be transformational - e.g. VVD & Alisson. You could even throw Keita into that bucket, but he clearly didn't work out.

It's big money but it's on a guy who is probably in the 5th to 10th best player in the world bracket. Plus his age profile is such that if he does well at Liverpool he'll more than hold his value across a 3-4 year timeframe. FSG love that sh1t.

IMHO it spells the end for Harvey Elliott. It'll be interesting to see what the net cost will be to swap Elliott for Wirtz. That's the kind of lens that the Liverpool hierarchy tends to view these things.

I think Elliott will go on to have a really good career, but likely has a lower long-term ceiling than Wirtz.

 

[Rebel CNC]

Fair enough. I'm just shocked at Liverpool spending so much on one player . Man city/utd and maybe Arsenal yes but it doesn't seem to be the Liverpool way so they must really rate him especially since they more or less got a free run at him once he decided to leave the bundsliga.

They paid what were then record fees for VVD and Allison at the time - granted, neither lasted long as Chelsea purchased Kepa for more money soon after and MU went in big for Big Harry within a year or so but point remains, Liverpool have history of splashing out in relatively recent pl era.

Big difference is they funded VVD and Allison from player sales, primarily Coutinho.
Their net spend in last five years is only 9th in premier league, primarily due to break even for season just gone. In three seasons prior to that, they were 2nd, 5th and 3rd biggest spenders.

 

[Rebel CNC]

Rumours that Darwin (another big money signing) off to Saudi with Barcola or Osimhen coming in!

 

[Herbert]

They paid what were then record fees for VVD and Allison at the time - granted, neither lasted long as Chelsea purchased Kepa for more money soon after and MU went in big for Big Harry within a year or so but point remains, Liverpool have history of splashing out in relatively recent pl era.

Big difference is they funded VVD and Allison from player sales, primarily Coutinho.
Their net spend in last five years is only 9th in premier league, primarily due to break even for season just gone. In three seasons prior to that, they were 2nd, 5th and 3rd biggest spenders.

They are definitely one of the better teams in getting good prices for their castoffs.

 

[Jim Comic]

this 100mil Wirtz geezer better work out or I, for one, will be publicly burning my lfc bedspread and matching pyjamas (while still wearing them)

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Let it be known I was on the Wirtz gravy train early, 2021

That Wirtz kid will be with Munich in 2 years

 

[wat_boy]

Let it be known I was on the Wirtz gravy train early, 2021

Absolutely thought the guy was nailed on to join City as KDB replacement when I first saw him play a few seasons back. Delighted he's chosen Liverpool, a serious talent.

 

[The Duke]

They paid what were then record fees for VVD and Allison at the time - granted, neither lasted long as Chelsea purchased Kepa for more money soon after and MU went in big for Big Harry within a year or so but point remains, Liverpool have history of splashing out in relatively recent pl era.

Big difference is they funded VVD and Allison from player sales, primarily Coutinho.
Their net spend in last five years is only 9th in premier league, primarily due to break even for season just gone. In three seasons prior to that, they were 2nd, 5th and 3rd biggest spenders.

Really? Surprised if so. I’m assuming you’re talking net £

 

[The Duke]

According to Transfermarkt, EPL transfer spend balance (net) ‘rankings’ for Liverpool are:

24/25: 16th
23/24: 7th
22/23: 11th

Maybe we’re not comparing apples with apples? Granted I would assume that Liverpool’s total Salary / Total revenue % is probably in the top 3-4 places. Maybe someone has data on this.

 

[Shabby]

I dunno.

Under FSG, Liverpool have showed a willingness to selectively go big fee-wise on a player if they really think he's got the potential to be transformational - e.g. VVD & Alisson. You could even throw Keita into that bucket, but he clearly didn't work out.

It's big money but it's on a guy who is probably in the 5th to 10th best player in the world bracket. Plus his age profile is such that if he does well at Liverpool he'll more than hold his value across a 3-4 year timeframe. FSG love that sh1t.

IMHO it spells the end for Harvey Elliott. It'll be interesting to see what the net cost will be to swap Elliott for Wirtz. That's the kind of lens that the Liverpool hierarchy tends to view these things.

I think Elliott will go on to have a really good career, but likely has a lower long-term ceiling than Wirtz.

In general there are plenty of assets within the squad that can be sold without weakening the overall strength of the team. Nunez will also be sold for a good chunk and replaced with someone who is more befitting of the style that Slot wants. Tsimikas will be sold and that fee used against the money to buy Kerkez. Selling squad players and buying first team players for now but also the future.

Crucially, losing Trent means we are losing massively in terms of creativity therefore those numbers need to replaced. That’s why Wirtz’s signing is so important. Combine that with the creativity in different ways from Frimpong and Kerkez and the team will have a better spread of creativity.

I would not be surprised if a top striker is brought in. It wouldn’t shock me if Isak and Alvarez are lured in by the club. It would take big money but if the player is right, the club have shown they are prepared to buy. I only think either of those two would be sold if they forced a move though.