The Official Liverpool Thread - Part 2

Why is FSG keen on buying Bordeaux – and could Liverpool benefit?

What exactly happened today?

It was revealed that Bordeaux have been provisionally relegated to the Championnat National, the third tier of French football, by the DNCG (French football’s financial watchdog) because they could not provide all the necessary guarantees for funding their 2024-25 season. In a statement, Bordeaux said they were appealing this decision.

To help retain their Ligue 2 status and secure their future, Bordeaux now plan to sell a majority stake to Fenway Sports Group (FSG). That idea was presented to the DNCG today (Tuesday), with negotiations ongoing. They have around two weeks to finalise a deal.

In a statement, FSG said: “Fenway Sports Group has expressed interest in the potential acquisition of French football club Girondins de Bordeaux and is in the early stages of dialogue and engagement.”

What is FSG’s strategy when it comes to buying more clubs?

Until now, Liverpool have been the only football club in FSG’s sports portfolio, which includes the Boston Red Sox baseball team, the ice hockey franchise Pittsburgh Penguins and the NASCAR outfit RFK Racing.

But in March, when Michael Edwards was appointed as FSG’s CEO of football, the Boston-based group revealed a change in strategy, with president Mike Gordon emailing Liverpool staff to say moves were underway to buy another football club.

“To remain competitive, we must identify every avenue available to us to gain an edge,” he wrote. “To this end, Michael (Edwards) will use every tool at his disposal and has already identified the acquisition of another club as one channel that will help fortify our overall operation and drive our competitive ambitions.”

In this sense, adopting the multi-club model would simply bring FSG into line with other Premier League ownership groups which boast a range of football clubs. Manchester City’s owners have 13 as part of their City Football Group, the biggest stable, but well over half of the 20 English top-flight clubs now have relationships with at least one other European side.

Why are Bordeaux considered attractive?

FC Girondins de Bordeaux are one of the most decorated clubs in France — winning six league titles, the most recent of which came in 2009. They got to the quarter-finals of the Champions League the following season.

Some icons of the French game, including Zinedine Zidane, Christophe Dugarry and Jean Tigana, played for Bordeaux, while current Real Madrid and France midfielder Aurelien Tchouameni came through their youth system.

However, the past few years have been tough.

Bordeaux entered administration in 2021 and were relegated a year later after finishing bottom of the top flight and conceding 91 goals in their 38 matches. To compound their misery, they were initially ordered to be demoted (again) to the third tier, with reported debts in the region of €40million (£33.8m, $43.2m). This would have put the future of the club at risk.

After putting together a debt restructuring plan, they were reinstated to Ligue 2 three days later and almost returned to Ligue 1 at the first attempt, finishing third in 2022-23 (only the top two go up, with no promotion play-offs), before a disappointing campaign last season where they came 12th in the 20-team division.

Bordeaux are currently managed by former Liverpool winger Albert Riera, who joined them in October last year. Reserve-team manager Erwan Lannuzel is also highly rated and their main talent-spotter is former France international Yannick Stopyra.

Despite their problems, Bordeaux’s support in their part of south-west France has remained strong: they still regularly attract 20,000 fans to games at their Matmut Atlantique stadium, which opened in 2015.

The stadium is impressive but also complicated: it is owned by Bordeaux’s city council in a public/private partnership and is also losing money. It is likely to be available to buy for around €50million, but that would require a negotiation with the council.

“Bordeaux is the definition of a sleeping giant,” said David Gluzman, a director at Deutsche Pfandbriefbank, a football finance expert and Bordeaux supporter. “It is a recognised brand, with all the domestic trophies in the cabinet, the second-largest average attendance in the division, a large catchment area and a total absence of competitors within a 200km (124 miles) radius.

“They are attractive factors, and you can add to that an outstanding academy that produced (current) French internationals such as Jules Kounde and Aurelien Tchouameni.”

Indeed, Bordeaux have earned over €100million from selling home-grown players in the past decade — a key reason they are still a going concern. Their next star could well be Mathys Angely, a France Under-17 centre-back who is highly rated across the continent.

Are there any benefits for Liverpool?

When Gordon emailed staff earlier this year to confirm Edwards’ appointment, he was keen to stress that buying another club would help rather than hinder Liverpool.

“This in no way takes away from the focus, attention, care — and most importantly — the investment in Liverpool. In fact, we see it as a path that will help strengthen our club for the future,” Gordon wrote.

Just how beneficial it proves to be, assuming the deal gets done, only time will tell. However, the advantages of the multi-club model can’t be overlooked. Since post-Brexit regulations came into force in 2021, English clubs have no longer been able to sign players under the age of 18 from overseas. Spanish midfielder Stefan Bajcetic was the last teenager Liverpool signed before the changes.

Owning a club in a country which is still a member of the European Union can help to circumvent those rules, as players can be based there until they reach adulthood.

For older players initially ineligible to get a work permit to play in the UK, placing them at another club can also be beneficial in terms of building up their qualification criteria.

As well as the edge owning another club can offer in terms of recruitment, it can also help when it comes to developing Liverpool’s own talent through the use of the loan system. In a multi-club model, the teams involved typically adopt the same playing style and the parent club has more control over the amount of game time a player is given.

There is also the opportunity to share scouting analysis and data.

Could there be a backlash?

Fans of other French clubs have reacted angrily to being absorbed into multi-club models.

Strasbourg supporters have regularly protested at being owned by BlueCo, the group which also runs Chelsea of the Premier League. The 2023-24 season threatened to come off the rails for Strasbourg as the mood turned toxic, although they did ultimately avoid relegation from Ligue 1.

There have also been protests at two other French sides: Lyon — against John Textor’s Eagle Football Group, which also owns Crystal Palace in the Premier League, Botafogo in Brazil and Belgium’s Molenbeek — and Lorient, where Bournemouth owner Bill Foley’s Black Knight Football Entertainment has a stake.

There is also the issue of Bordeaux and Liverpool potentially playing in the same UEFA competition in the future, although that is less problematic now UEFA, European football’s governing body, has relaxed its rules surrounding multi-club owners having teams involved in its tournaments.

Yet French football currently has potentially far bigger concerns, not least the scramble to agree a TV rights deal. Ligue 2 has secured a contract with beIN, but the top flight remains without one just over a month away from its new season.

Clubs who had been expecting to share around €1billion per season look like having to make do with considerably less than that, putting the whole French football ecosystem under strain.

Could there be more additions to the FSG football stable?

As The Athletic reported in March, there is no sense that FSG’s ambitions end with purchasing one more European club, although that was always likely to be the first step in the project.

South America remains a potentially fruitful market, and FSG has looked at opportunities there closely. It has been linked to as many as four Brazilian clubs – Cruzeiro, Botafogo, Athletico Paranaense and Internacional – in the past.

Liverpool’s owner Fenway Sports Group (FSG) has withdrawn from talks to buy French club Bordeaux.

FSG confirmed last week that it was in “the early stages of dialogue and engagement” over a deal for the French club, said on Tuesday that it had made the decision to withdraw from talks “following extensive and constructive discussions with all stakeholders”.

Bordeaux’s own statement on Tuesday said that FSG had informed them “of its intention not to pursue the discussions initiated in recent weeks with a view to buying the club.” The French side added that the decision was explained “in particular by the significant cost of the stadium in the years to come, but also by the general economic context of French football.

“The club and its shareholder are now putting all their energy into finalising a financing plan for the 2024-2025 season in preparation for the appeal hearing.”

The decision adds to that uncertainty around the future of the Ligue 2 club, after the Direction Nationale du Controle de Gestion (DNCG, the body responsible for overseeing the finances of French football clubs) decided to demote the club from the French second tier to the third. Bordeaux said last week they have appealed that decision.
 
Interesting player and at a £50m price point I can see why he'd be of interest.

Stylistically has lots of similarities to early career Mo...but would need to make a big leap in terms of xG + goals output to be considered a potential medium-term replacement.

Might be interesting to see Kubo as right side wide attacker & Mo moved into the centre.

 
Interesting player and at a £50m price point I can see why he'd be of interest.

Stylistically has lots of similarities to early career Mo...but would need to make a big leap in terms of xG + goals output to be considered a potential medium-term replacement.

Might be interesting to see Kubo as right side wide attacker & Mo moved into the centre.

Would they ever just get on with it and buy some fucker ? Time is moving on.
 
Given the new manager and the late return of players due to the Euros/Copa it might well be a summer of relatively few incomings.

It would be tricky for Hughes and Slot to make lots of big decisions on players they haven't worked with. Although Slot has even watched back tapes of them training last season, so perhaps he's willing to make some educated guesses.

Could be a case of carrying a few extra guys around the squad (or giving some edge cases an opportunity out on loan) through to Jan and then making some moves (in and out) across that window and the summer 2025 one.
 
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