The official Cork court report thread.

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This thread.....

 

[BlarneyMan]

You suspect correctly, because it is the truth.

Knew it

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

You suspect correctly, because it is the truth.

Another one for your list
Fair play to you for keeping all these idiots in a vicelike grip

 

[MerchantOfEnnis]

No. Our legal system, like most legal systems, treat repeat offenders more severely than first time offenders.

So are you telling me that someone with only one conviction of murder is going to be treated with more leniency than someone with multiple murder convictions?

So if someone only does the one murder, an auld suspended sentence is probably enough as far as you're concerned is it?

Just let them kill a few more people and then start thinking about jail time. Is that what you're saying?

Madness.

 

[Ghoti]

I'm sure you wet dream Matlock will find some reasoning behind it

I suspect this is going to be her answer

The accused had 83 previous convictions including seven for causing criminal damage and 31 for theft.

He also had 12 for being drunk and a danger and 10 for engaging in threatening and abusive behaviour.

You're effectively cosplaying her.

 

[Matlock]

So are you telling me that someone with only one conviction of murder is going to be treated with more leniency than someone with multiple murder convictions?

So if someone only does the one murder, an auld suspended sentence is probably enough as far as you're concerned is it?

Just let them kill a few more people and then start thinking about jail time. Is that what you're saying?

Madness.

Someone with one murder conviction gets life. There isn't any other possible offence.

No one ever said that all first offences get a suspended sentence. Not sure why you are pretending that they did.

The majority of first offences in the district court, and a good number of first offences in the circuit court, will attract a suspended sentence. More serious offences, dealt with in the central criminal court, will generally not.

I assume you actually know all this already...

 

[BlarneyMan]

Someone with one murder conviction gets life. There isn't any other possible offence.

No one ever said that all first offences get a suspended sentence. Not sure why you are pretending that they did.

The majority of first offences in the district court, and a good number of first offences in the circuit court, will attract a suspended sentence. More serious offences, dealt with in the central criminal court, will generally not.

I assume you actually know all this already...

You mean “life”, or in reality 12-ish years at most on average

 

[Matlock]

You mean “life”, or in reality 12-ish years at most on average

That is not the "reality".

The reality is that something cannot both be at most and on average. Those are two different things.

The reality is that the average time spent in prison on a life tariff in Ireland is about 20 years.

The reality is that a prisoner on a life tariff cannot apply for parole for the first 12 years. They may apply after that, but it is rarely granted on first application.

The reality is that a life sentence is so called because once released from prison the prisoner is released on licence only. They are never released from that licence. It does not, nor has it ever intended to mean, that the person serves the rest of their life in prison.

That is the reality.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

You mean “life”, or in reality 12-ish years at most on average

The average life sentence in Ireland for the past 10 years is 20 years. Do you ever get anything right?

 

[MerchantOfEnnis]

I assume you actually know all this already...