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[Philby]

A recent Bookie Bashing Bashcast pod talked about a copycat who had set up a subscription service which replicated a lot of their trackers/tools.

As a result it sounds like Tom Brownlee, through necessity, will be talking a lot less about the betting/maths theory behind their tools - which is a shame, as he's been as helpful as anyone in sharing knowledge around how to price up markets & look for edges.

Sounded like some of the free content at BB's site may be taken down or trimmed back too, so if you've got an interest then worth whizzing through their backlog of articles and archiving ones that take your fancy.

https://www.bookiebashing.net/2018/09/ - you can cycle through month-by-month using this link

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

A recent Bookie Bashing Bashcast pod talked about a copycat who had set up a subscription service which replicated a lot of their trackers/tools.

As a result it sounds like Tom Brownlee, through necessity, will be talking a lot less about the betting/maths theory behind their tools - which is a shame, as he's been as helpful as anyone in sharing knowledge around how to price up markets & look for edges.

Sounded like some of the free content at BB's site may be taken down or trimmed back too, so if you've got an interest then worth whizzing through their backlog of articles and archiving ones that take your fancy.

https://www.bookiebashing.net/2018/09/ - you can cycle through month-by-month using this link

Yeah, he released a podcast about it (90 minutes long about this single issue), and I listened to about half of it while walking the dog. 2 days later I went to listen to the rest and it was gone (legal threats were issued I'd say, because it was pretty defamatory about the profit rush guy, imo rightfully so, but I don't make the law)

He made a joke about gaslighting us all in the new episode 211!

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

I wouldn't be playing down a 13/2 winner.

I actually backed him at 7/1 the Sunday night before last at 888. It was just after he won the last tournament, the GSODs, and was a standout price. I still haven't been paid out this morning, which is slightly concerning.

I'm going to leave it until tomorrow and assume it's just an oversight. I've taken a screenshot just in case.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

I actually backed him at 7/1 the Sunday night before last at 888. It was just after he won the last tournament, the GSODs, and was a standout price. I still haven't been paid out this morning, which is slightly concerning.

I'm going to leave it until tomorrow and assume it's just an oversight. I've taken a screenshot just in case.

Surely you can just login and check if it's still pending, right?

 

[Philby]

Yeah, he released a podcast about it (90 minutes long about this single issue), and I listened to about half of it while walking the dog. 2 days later I went to listen to the rest and it was gone (legal threats were issued I'd say, because it was pretty defamatory about the profit rush guy, imo rightfully so, but I don't make the law)

Gotcha. I was going to link to it here via youtube, but that explains why I couldn't find it.

He certainly wasn't very kind about him, but I'll leave it to those on higher day rates than me to judge if it was libellous.

I still seem to have access to it using my pod app. I'll ping you a link.

He made a joke about gaslighting us all in the new episode 211!

Ah right. I sped past the intros to get to the betting content, so missed that initially.

Couldn't recommend his articles highly enough. Strike the balance perfectly in terms of giving great insight without spoonfeeding. Act as a great intro on the theory & a prompt to kick on and research more yourself.

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

Surely you can just login and check if it's still pending, right?

The bet is still there in my bet history as an open bet.

It's probably just not paid yet, but you read so much about bookies acting like pricks, I have a suspicion when things like this happen!

 

[Nollaig O Muracu]

Paddy going 8/1 special offer for MVG for the world championship for play card holders.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

I'd have far more time for Tom Brownlee's insights than the guy from Predictology. A whiff of snake oil off him.

I would be inclined to say that he's much more guarded and a bit less articulate than Tom Brownlee, rather than accusing him of being a snake oil salesman, or is there some particular experience you have of him or his product, other than the bombardment, that makes you think that?

Tom Brownlee does seem very keen to talk and be open. As much as he might be likeable, I can see why people who have, or used to have, the same edges as him might get a bit upset with him.

The bet is still there in my bet history as an open bet.

It's probably just not paid yet, but you read so much about bookies acting like pricks, I have a suspicion when things like this happen!

Ah, you're grand so, just slow to settle.

 

[Philby]

I would be inclined to say that he's much more guarded and a bit less articulate than Tom Brownlee, rather than accusing him of being a snake oil salesman, or is there some particular experience you have of him or his product, other than the bombardment, that makes you think that?

Ah no. Nothing sinister. Just a combination of the email onslaught (roughly 2 a day for a fortnight), his digital marketing background (..which I admit is probably unfair on my part) and the nature of his prediction models (...from what I recall, nothing jumped out to indicate that they'd guide you to betting on something where there's a genuine edge - i.e. betting at a better price than it should be. Felt very pattern-based).

Have you seen anything from Predictology that looked promising? It's been a while since I looked & the site seems to have changed substantialy.

Tom Brownlee does seem very keen to talk and be open. As much as he might be likeable, I can see why people who have, or used to have, the same edges as him might get a bit upset with him.

I can see that angle too. They're entitled to be unhappy - but equally, he's entitled to leverage his knowledge base to offer an information service - like traditional tipsters are.

 

[Cloudy O'Ranieri]

Have you seen anything from Predictology that looked promising? It's been a while since I looked & the site seems to have changed substantialy.



I can see that angle too. They're entitled to be unhappy - but equally, he's entitled to leverage his knowledge base to offer an information service - like traditional tipsters are.

Ah no, I have no experience of him or the site other than listening to him on the two recent podcasts. If your experience isn't great, then you may well have a point. Apparently, his site is similar in popularity to Bookie Bashers, so...