The Next Uachtarán na hÉireann

[Clubber_Langer]

Bigger fool me responding to you.

I pity.

 

[Hallbopping]

 

[Yermon]

What was it Kenneth Collins said on 96fm when challenged for voting to exclude any other candidates on cork city council?
That is politics get over it,

Oh I'm well over it, and Calamity James giving a slap in the puss to MM and toady JC on his way out the door is icing on the cake.


I was merely making the suggestion that many of those that wanted to spoil their vote have a very easy way of doing it now given that JG has withdrawn from the race. Or will you and your fellow FFers try convince yourselves that any tick opposite JG's name on the ballot paper will be a genuine vote for someone shown up to be so utterly unsuitable, and who has already officially withdrawn from the race

 

[RebelBhoy]

Will the 2 point zone now be known as the high rent district?

 

[Yermon]

You can describe yourself as anything you want.
Her grandfather signed the Covenant. Her husband is a member. She went to marches when younger.
If you dont believe she is a defacto member then you are very naive.

Think that's harsh on the lady tbh.

I've no doubt she knew of his politics and membership of the OO when she chose to marry him, and coming from a grandfather who signed the Ulster Covenant someone being a member of the OO wouldn't necessarily raise a red flag for them, but I don't think she's de facto a member of the OO - sympathetic perhaps.

 

[Yermon]

Don’t waste your time, according to him it was only Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil stopped other candidates which patently isn’t true. As evidenced in Meath

I'm merely quoting the two affected people, Sheridan in particular, who put the blame primarily on FG who were blatant in the whipping of their members, and FF who were less blatant but as Fionnan Sheehan (no friend of SF) admitted were more subtle about it but every bit as effective.

If you and your fellow FFers want to pretend you know more about what went on to stymie the possibility of Sheridan and Steen getting on the ballot paper than Sheridan and Steen themselves, knock yourself out.

 

[KolaKubes]

You can describe yourself as anything you want.
Her grandfather signed the Covenant. Her husband is a member. She went to marches when younger.
If you dont believe she is a defacto member then you are very naive.

Her husband is not in the Orange Order but that’s by the by.

A woman can’t be a de facto member of any sort of member of the Orange Order.

If someone’s family member was in the IRA, should that be held against them?

Reunification isn’t high on my list of priorities but for those for whom it is, I worry how you think you’re going to incorporate a million people up there if there are these red lines.

 

[Henrys Fonda]

I'm merely quoting the two affected people,

Quote them away, it doesn’t change the facts. Your party are as complicit as Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael in blocking independents.

 

[TonyCork80]

Her husband is not in the Orange Order but that’s by the by.

A woman can’t be a de facto member of any sort of member of the Orange Order.

If someone’s family member was in the IRA, should that be held against them?

Reunification isn’t high on my list of priorities but for those for whom it is, I worry how you think you’re going to incorporate a million people up there if there are these red lines.

This is exactly the thing. If you want a united ireland, then that is an acceptance that you want cultural unionism as a major political force in the republic. In the ten years after any reunification chances are you could well have a tanaiste at least who comes from an orange background. If there was a unionist block controlling 20 odd seats in a reconstituted Dail.

A United ireland will be Brits in, rather than Brits out.

 

[Yermon]

Her husband is not in the Orange Order but that’s by the by.

A woman can’t be a de facto member of any sort of member of the Orange Order.

If someone’s family member was in the IRA, should that be held against them?

Reunification isn’t high on my list of priorities but for those for whom it is, I worry how you think you’re going to incorporate a million people up there if there are these red lines.

KK, have a word with yourself - there aren't 1M Orange Order members ANYWHERE!

Nobody is suggesting that Heather Noname isn't suitable because of her faith - the issue is with a SECTARIAN organisation the Orange Order and her husbands very strong links to same. He was a member of the Orange Order a decidedly sectarian organisation at a time when sectarian killings were being carried out "up there".

As you say, and as I said previously, it doesn't make HN a member of the OO, but I think it likely that when she married her husband she knew of his links to an overtly sectarian organisation and it didn't seem to phase her.