The next Government

[SoundMan]

Do you not agree that somebody who loses a nightclub job would be probably be financially and socially as well
off in a daytime hospitality job?

I think that would depend on what their skill-set is. Being a large imposing tattooed door-man for instance mightn't really lend itself to showing people to their seats and waiting on tables. Or being a DJ or band member or roadie. Even bar staff that are used to working the night shift - what are they supposed to do now with the numbers of bars opened already reduced - should they just tell their day-time colleagues not to bother coming in?

A one-size fits all system won't work and while the PUP may be discouraging a certain cohort of people from returning to work - construction experts tell us that we don't have enough construction workers anyway even if each and every one of them was back at work - reducing the PUP while at the same time removing some people's ability to actually go to their work is stupid.

 

[The High King]

I think that would depend on what their skill-set is. Being a large imposing tattooed door-man for instance mightn't really lend itself to showing people to their seats and waiting on tables. Or being a DJ or band member or roadie. Even bar staff that are used to working the night shift - what are they supposed to do now with the numbers of bars opened already reduced - should they just tell their day-time colleagues not to bother coming in?

A one-size fits all system won't work and while the PUP may be discouraging a certain cohort of people from returning to work - construction experts tell us that we don't have enough construction workers anyway even if each and every one of them was back at work - reducing the PUP while at the same time removing some people's ability to actually go to their work is stupid.

What the fuck are you on about?
As someone who worked in the hospitality sector you're blowing it out your hole.
DJ Soundy can get a proper job like the rest of us. There are plenty of jobs in the sector and you can nearly name your hours at this stage.
As for your big bouncer? Plenty of unskilled well paid work available on the sites.

 

[Stacky]

I think that would depend on what their skill-set is. Being a large imposing tattooed door-man for instance mightn't really lend itself to showing people to their seats and waiting on tables. Or being a DJ or band member or roadie. Even bar staff that are used to working the night shift - what are they supposed to do now with the numbers of bars opened already reduced - should they just tell their day-time colleagues not to bother coming in?

A one-size fits all system won't work and while the PUP may be discouraging a certain cohort of people from returning to work - construction experts tell us that we don't have enough construction workers anyway even if each and every one of them was back at work - reducing the PUP while at the same time removing some people's ability to actually go to their work is stupid.

When your summer job or hobby becomes your career now is it?

People have left those hospitality jobs in huge numbers, upskilled etc and they now have better jobs and benefits and lifestyles.

The economy is short of labour in many areas.

 

[SoundMan]

What the fuck are you on about?
As someone who worked in the hospitality sector your blowing it out you're hole.
DJ Soundy can get a proper job like the rest of us. They're are plenty of jobs in the sector and you can nearly name your hours at this stage.
As for your big bouncer? Plenty of unskilled well paid work available on the sites.

As someone who has also worked in the hospitality sector I see you've mixed up "your" and "you're" in the one sentence. That took some doing in fairness so safe to say you couldn't have a career change from working in the hospitality sector to teaching English

I'm sure to some DJs who've made their living from it, then being a DJ or roadie, or bouncer, or late-night bar man or whatever, they've looked on them as a "proper job". Their ability to go and do the job they've always done has been (rightly for society imho) taken from them at the moment. Why not pay them the PUP for that period of time
Others don't have their place of and ability to go to work taken from them and closed by Government order. Reduce their PUP. As I say, a one-size-fits-all policy is stupid because it's too blunt.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Two weeks ago your spokesperson (Up the Ra) on health said the time had come when the [emergency powers] were no longer needed… Sinn Fein opposed vaccination certs…



They're making it up as they go. A shower of spoofers.

 

[jimmym]

Take the scenario of a nightclub worker who works friday and saturdays, and has a full time job
monday to friday elsewhere, Should he/she get the PUP? Paul Murphy and co want it back up to 350 eu

 

[SoundMan]

Two weeks ago your spokesperson (Up the Ra) on health said the time had come when the [emergency powers] were no longer needed… Sinn Fein opposed vaccination certs…



They're making it up as they go. A shower of spoofers.

Two weeks ago the situation wasn't as grave as it now seems to be. It may have escaped your notice but the government have ramped up the restrictions because of how the Covid19 numbers have gotten out of hand. We're up in the thousands of positive cases per day now, and that wasn't happening two weeks ago. Your rather silly attempt at linking what was said by people two weeks ago with what is currently the case shows how fixated you are on SF and how stupidly you'll try to blame them for whatever happens. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. You have previous for it.

 

[SoundMan]

Take the scenario of a nightclub worker who works friday and saturdays, and has a full time job
monday to friday elsewhere, Should he/she get the PUP? Paul Murphy and co want it back up to 350 eu

If he has a full time job separate to working in the nightclub then of course he shouldn't be getting a PUP as well. And he'll have a rsi number and Revenue will know his circumstances. FFS it isn't that difficult to understand jimmy

 

[Meridian]

Two weeks ago the situation wasn't as grave as it now seems to be. It may have escaped your notice but the government have ramped up the restrictions because of how the Covid19 numbers have gotten out of hand. We're up in the thousands of positive cases per day now, and that wasn't happening two weeks ago. Your rather silly attempt at linking what was said by people two weeks ago with what is currently the case shows how fixated you are on SF and how stupidly you'll try to blame them for whatever happens. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. You have previous for it.

Wow you are some bluffer.

2 days ago you moaned that the Government had shut down the night time economy and reduced PUP on the same day.

Now you come out with that.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Two weeks ago the situation wasn't as grave as it now seems to be. It may have escaped your notice but the government have ramped up the restrictions because of how the Covid19 numbers have gotten out of hand. We're up in the thousands of positive cases per day now, and that wasn't happening two weeks ago. Your rather silly attempt at linking what was said by people two weeks ago with what is currently the case shows how fixated you are on SF and how stupidly you'll try to blame them for whatever happens. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. You have previous for it.

Listen m8, Cullinane is as incompetent as they come. The guy is of such limited intelligence that he struggles unless reading off a prepared script.

Its embarassing for the Shinners that Up the Ra is given such a high profile spot. Seriously poor selection.



His flip flopping on every issue is to be expected from the party that were against vaccination certs.