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She opposes Ukraine’s right to defend itself. Do you agree with her view on that? Neutrality only means don’t support America when it comes to the hard left in Ireland.

Does she? Must confess I've not seen her oppose Ukraine's right to defend itself - can you post a link to her saying that?
As it happens I think Ukraine has every right to defend itself against the russian invasion.
 
https://www.kildarestreet.com/debate/?id=2022-02-23a.571

Here she is blaming NATO for the invasion of Ukraine. Typical commentary from those on the left, Russia invades and it’s America’s fault.

What you linked said:

I welcome the Ukrainian ambassador and her team. I note that it is an all-female delegation. I welcome that. I also want to use that fact to point out that in every war, it is women, children and civilians who suffer most. At the bottom of that list, are the warmongers and those who cry loudest for war. I am shocked to hear some voices in this Dáil talk about the outbreak of a third world war or words to that effect. We should be raging against any possibility of war. We should be using our voice as a neutral country, which is a powerful voice that has long been recognised and given respect because we have carried out our role as an independent, neutral country with integrity and as part of UN missions. I have listened to the debate in my office and in here. I am truly horrified as a woman, mother and female Deputy at the casual acceptance of war. I do not want to waste my time giving my opinion of Putin. I am on the record about it. He is a dictator with no respect for democracy. NATO's role in all of this has already been outlined by some colleagues on the left, but certainly not on the right. NATO has played a despicable role in moving forward to the border and engaging in warmongering. Ireland has been hypocritical on many levels.

I will address a positive matter. The Minister, Deputy Coveney, called for us to focus on dialogue and diplomacy. I hope he does that and I will fully support him. I do not want war. The casual manner in which history is being described here is totally inaccurate. War does not solve anything. Perhaps women might begin to say, out loud, "Not in our name," and "Peace in our name." Women and children suffer the most. There was rightly outrage about the Russian military being in our waters. It was not matched by outrage about NATO exercises in our waters, to which we turned a blind eye. We turned a blind eye to the blatant breach of international law by Israel against Palestine and to Yemen and Saudi Arabia's role there, which Ireland colluded with. I will take no lectures from any male Deputy in this Chamber about standing up and seeing the reality. I know the reality. I have read everything I can get and looked at every possible document about war. It solves nothing. I stand firmly with Ukraine. What it is facing is unimaginable. Even more unimaginable is a third world war, with NATO having a role. We now need a critical compass when we have lost our moral compass.



Rather than your trying to put words in her mouth can you point out where she specifically "opposed Ukraine's right to defend itself" and where she specifically blamed NATO for the invasion of Ukraine - because I can see neither in what you've linked. I do see where she specifically said: "I do not want to waste my time giving my opinion of Putin. I am on the record about it. He is a dictator with no respect for democracy. "

Or did you mean to link to a different speech by her where she actually made the statements you attribute to her - in which case I'll gladly read it
 
What you linked said:

I welcome the Ukrainian ambassador and her team. I note that it is an all-female delegation. I welcome that. I also want to use that fact to point out that in every war, it is women, children and civilians who suffer most. At the bottom of that list, are the warmongers and those who cry loudest for war. I am shocked to hear some voices in this Dáil talk about the outbreak of a third world war or words to that effect. We should be raging against any possibility of war. We should be using our voice as a neutral country, which is a powerful voice that has long been recognised and given respect because we have carried out our role as an independent, neutral country with integrity and as part of UN missions. I have listened to the debate in my office and in here. I am truly horrified as a woman, mother and female Deputy at the casual acceptance of war. I do not want to waste my time giving my opinion of Putin. I am on the record about it. He is a dictator with no respect for democracy. NATO's role in all of this has already been outlined by some colleagues on the left, but certainly not on the right. NATO has played a despicable role in moving forward to the border and engaging in warmongering. Ireland has been hypocritical on many levels.

I will address a positive matter. The Minister, Deputy Coveney, called for us to focus on dialogue and diplomacy. I hope he does that and I will fully support him. I do not want war. The casual manner in which history is being described here is totally inaccurate. War does not solve anything. Perhaps women might begin to say, out loud, "Not in our name," and "Peace in our name." Women and children suffer the most. There was rightly outrage about the Russian military being in our waters. It was not matched by outrage about NATO exercises in our waters, to which we turned a blind eye. We turned a blind eye to the blatant breach of international law by Israel against Palestine and to Yemen and Saudi Arabia's role there, which Ireland colluded with. I will take no lectures from any male Deputy in this Chamber about standing up and seeing the reality. I know the reality. I have read everything I can get and looked at every possible document about war. It solves nothing. I stand firmly with Ukraine. What it is facing is unimaginable. Even more unimaginable is a third world war, with NATO having a role. We now need a critical compass when we have lost our moral compass.



Rather than your trying to put words in her mouth can you point out where she specifically "opposed Ukraine's right to defend itself" and where she specifically blamed NATO for the invasion of Ukraine - because I can see neither in what you've linked. I do see where she specifically said: "I do not want to waste my time giving my opinion of Putin. I am on the record about it. He is a dictator with no respect for democracy. "

Or did you mean to link to a different speech by her where she actually made the statements you attribute to her - in which case I'll gladly read it
The bluster about NATO was distraction and irrelevant. They were in no way responsible for or at fault for the invasion of Ukraine. Mentioning them is equivocating Russia’s responsibility for it.
 
I wouldn't take that as blaming NATO.
She is more or less pleading for restraint.

It's kind of a Mick Wallace/Claire Daly version of restraint. Let's all put down the weapons now and let Russia have what it holds!! The invasion was unfortunate but we are where we are and it's all America's fault really!!
 
The bluster about NATO was distraction and irrelevant. They were in no way responsible for or at fault for the invasion of Ukraine. Mentioning them is equivocating Russia’s responsibility for it.

You said "She opposes Ukraine’s right to defend itself." - have you any evidence to support that claim? Any evidence at all?
 
You said "She opposes Ukraine’s right to defend itself." - have you any evidence to support that claim? Any evidence at all?
Yes. What I posted shows she opposes NATO countries militarily helping Ukraine. If they didn’t then Ukraine would lose. No amount of speeches in the Dáil will prevent Putin from continuing the war.
 
Yes. What I posted shows she opposes NATO countries militarily helping Ukraine. If they didn’t then Ukraine would lose. No amount of speeches in the Dáil will prevent Putin from continuing the war.

If the link I quoted is the some total of your evidence against her, then I'm afraid you're incorrect in your assertion. You can't post to a single thing where she opposes Ukraine's right to defend itself.

Ukraine can have a right to defend itself and NATO still been a bad actor in all of this - nowhere near as bad an actor as Putin obviously, but playing chess with real lives and real countries' sovereignty on the line wasn't clever.

Even if Putin is 99% to blame for the disaster in Ukraine, and NATO 1%, then NATO isn't blameless, and Ukraine still has the right to defend itself.
 
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