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The Munster Rugby Thread 24/25

Interesting to hear Donnacha O Callaghan have a crack off them for the perceived lack of effort from many of the players last Saturday. It wasn't all fire and brimstone from him but good none the less.
Era the lack of effort thing is a bit of a lazy red herring from lads.

Effort isn’t going to turn a 37 year old John Ryan into a 28 year old John Ryan. Niall Scannell’s problem isn’t effort, it’s ability.

Effort won’t make players who are simply incapable of breaking the gain line turn into David Wallace.

Stupid mistakes cost us 3 of 4 tries, and they didn’t come from lack of effort, it came from us forcing play.
 
Era the lack of effort thing is a bit of a lazy red herring from lads.

Effort isn’t going to turn a 37 year old John Ryan into a 28 year old John Ryan. Niall Scannell’s problem isn’t effort, it’s ability.

Effort won’t make players who are simply incapable of breaking the gain line turn into David Wallace.

Stupid mistakes cost us 3 of 4 tries, and they didn’t come from lack of effort, it came from us forcing play.
Little from column A, little from column B.
As an example, if you look at the race to the line for the 2nd try, Abrahams starts off level but ends up quite a good bit behind. Maybe Slade is just that fast, but Abrahams gives up with 15 metres to go. Wonder if he was carrying an injury. He was also slowly jogging to get back into the defensive line, on the blindside which was already covered, for the first try.
For the 3rd try, that was a silly mistake, but the alignment was dreadful, Munster were way too compressed, making defence far too easy, there were 3 players on the receiver (Kendellen), and Kendellen's only support was Loughman, so it's not as if that play would have gone anywhere at all had the pass not been intercepted.

Their last try was ridiculous, 6 missed tackles.

So yeah, bit of it was unlucky, but there were definite signs of not enough effort going in. Maybe there is a lack of fitness? Those mistakes happen when players are tired, your point on age is a valid one, but only limited application...
 
Era the lack of effort thing is a bit of a lazy red herring from lads.

Effort isn’t going to turn a 37 year old John Ryan into a 28 year old John Ryan. Niall Scannell’s problem isn’t effort, it’s ability.

Effort won’t make players who are simply incapable of breaking the gain line turn into David Wallace.

Stupid mistakes cost us 3 of 4 tries, and they didn’t come from lack of effort, it came from us forcing play.
Both can be a thing.
Getting up off the floor and back in line doesn't take any skill.

If someone like DOC is calling it out you know it's noticeable in their eyes.
 
We've a real problem with how cosy the media are here with the provinces and the national setup. I keep in hearing lads like Thornley, Jackman, et al, telling us how there are problems at Munster, and how various players they've signed have been shite and all of that. I've heard fuck all specifics. It's all duirt bean liom go nduirt bean lei. If you really want to stop pretending to be a journalist, spill the fucking beans. Otherwise, you're really adding fuck all to the conversation.
 
We've a real problem with how cosy the media are here with the provinces and the national setup. I keep in hearing lads like Thornley, Jackman, et al, telling us how there are problems at Munster, and how various players they've signed have been shite and all of that. I've heard fuck all specifics. It's all duirt bean liom go nduirt bean lei. If you really want to stop pretending to be a journalist, spill the fucking beans. Otherwise, you're really adding fuck all to the conversation.
And it's all "we've known now for years..."

So why the fuck are you only saying it now ya cunt?
 
We've a real problem with how cosy the media are here with the provinces and the national setup. I keep in hearing lads like Thornley, Jackman, et al, telling us how there are problems at Munster, and how various players they've signed have been shite and all of that. I've heard fuck all specifics. It's all duirt bean liom go nduirt bean lei. If you really want to stop pretending to be a journalist, spill the fucking beans. Otherwise, you're really adding fuck all to the conversation.
100% This
 
We've a real problem with how cosy the media are here with the provinces and the national setup. I keep in hearing lads like Thornley, Jackman, et al, telling us how there are problems at Munster, and how various players they've signed have been shite and all of that. I've heard fuck all specifics. It's all duirt bean liom go nduirt bean lei. If you really want to stop pretending to be a journalist, spill the fucking beans. Otherwise, you're really adding fuck all to the conversation.

I like Jackman but the way he goes on you'd swear he was sitting in on management meetings in Thomond Park.

Murray Kinsella seems to know the lineups before the players do
 
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