The Hurling Thread

[latchico]

Hurling Review Public Survey

An important survey exploring the playing rules of hurling is being launched. The survey has been developed by the Hurling Advisory Committee, chaired by former Cork Senior Hurling Manager, John Meyler. Those involved in Gaelic games, and hurling in particular, as players, coaches, managers, or...

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Yeah good survey, filled it out there. However there's a lot of crossover on some of the choices and you only get once choice on some of the really important stuff. Might have been better to give a graded multiple choice for more of the questions. Thanks for uploading it Mattie

 

[Pooman]

Yeah good survey, filled it out there. However there's a lot of crossover on some of the choices and you only get once choice on some of the really important stuff. Might have been better to give a graded multiple choice for more of the questions. Thanks for uploading it Mattie

Generally good survey but the "biggest problem in hurling" question was strange. Three of the choices either directly or indirectly related to referees. Also nothing about things like:
1. Loss of skills (ground & overhead striking etc)
2. Too many scores
3. Modernisation of equipment (bas size, light sliotar etc) and their impact, eg scoring from inside your own 45.
An "Other" section would at least have allowed people to highlight issues they felt were important.

 

[Killyoursons]

Same as us

Yes, given that O'Connor and Considine aren't included. Makes much more sense for Cork though, given we are currently in the middle of a record famine. It seems bizarre that none of the five KK managers before Cody won an AI between them.

 

[imigrant]

Did Ollie Walsh not win 1992 and 1993 ?

 

[Killyoursons]

Did Ollie Walsh not win 1992 and 1993 ?

1993 was KK's last AI before 2000, so for that Twitter post to be correct there must have been five unsuccessful managers in the interim. I wouldn't know offhand if this is correct (I do recall Nicky Brennan having a short stint in charge during this period).

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Unfortunately ours is 0 from our last 7 if my count is correct.

I didn’t include BOC or Considine

 

[Double90]

1993 was KK's last AI before 2000, so for that Twitter post to be correct there must have been five unsuccessful managers in the interim. I wouldn't know offhand if this is correct (I do recall Nicky Brennan having a short stint in charge during this period).

It was me that referenced that stat from Twitter, I think someone here might have read it wrong.
The stat was that only 2 of their last 7 managers have won all Irelands, not that the 5 managers directly before Cody failed to win one.

Of the 5 that didn’t win, Derek Lyng is one. The 2 prior to Cody (one being Nicky Brennan, I cant remember the other name) also. Before those 2 was Ollie Walsh who won 2 All Irelands as someone else mentioned. And before Ollie Walsh there were 2 more that never won an all Ireland, one being Eddie Keher.
So in the last 40+ years there have only been 2 KK managers who have won all Irelands, Cody and Ollie Walsh.
Now stats can be misleading at times, as that sounds like a terrible return, until you consider one of those 2 successful managers has won it 11 times. So it certainly wasn’t me throwing any stones at KK, it was just a surprising one to read.

 

[Double90]

I didn’t include BOC or Considine

Nor did I. I have Gerald, Denis Walsh, JBM, Kingston, Meyler, Kingston again, Pat Ryan.

 

[BettyDoesMallow]

It was me that referenced that stat from Twitter, I think someone here might have read it wrong.
The stat was that only 2 of their last 7 managers have won all Irelands, not that the 5 managers directly before Cody failed to win one.

Of the 5 that didn’t win, Derek Lyng is one. The 2 prior to Cody (one being Nicky Brennan, I cant remember the other name) also. Before those 2 was Ollie Walsh who won 2 All Irelands as someone else mentioned. And before Ollie Walsh there were 2 more that never won an all Ireland, one being Eddie Keher.
So in the last 40+ years there have only been 2 KK managers who have won all Irelands, Cody and Ollie Walsh.
Now stats can be misleading at times, as that sounds like a terrible return, until you consider one of those 2 successful managers has won it 11 times. So it certainly wasn’t me throwing any stones at KK, it was just a surprising one to read.

Doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - like the fact that in the last 110 years only 2 Man Utd Managers have been league Champions.

 

[Killyoursons]

Nor did I. I have Gerald, Denis Walsh, JBM, Kingston, Meyler, Kingston again, Pat Ryan.

That's only six managers. The seventh should be Allen.