The Hurling Thread

[Killyoursons]

Actually, you’re right you can crib away. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. Different examples (individuals v corporations) exploiting the same tax systems and laws that enable the free movement of capital and labour.

I don't think it's hypocrisy, because we're talking about different taxes and different tax payers (e.g., corporations Vs individuals). There's no hypocrisy in treating different kinds of case differently.

He is not breaking any laws and is entitled to do this.

True, but I don't see why this is relevant.

Who amongst us would not seek to minimise their tax liabilities if you had the means to do so..?

I wouldn't. If I had the means to do so then I would not need to avail of those means in order to get by. And I'm not some saintly individual either.

Interesting when one points out some of the good things he has done the good old Irish begrudgery comes out.

It's also interesting they when one correctly points out that he is avoiding paying tax one is often accused of begrudgery, as opposed to, say, raising a fair criticism.

Are you not going to acknowledge any of the positive contributions he has made in Ireland?

I'm happy to. His businesses have provided employment and he has given generously to various causes, including the GAA. None of that is incompatible with criticising him as an Irish citizen who moved abroad to avoid paying tax.

 

[The Duke]

Fair enough KYS. Wouldn’t disagree with everything you’ve said. Agree to disagree on others.

 

[Lee Bushwacker]

I don't think it's hypocrisy, because we're talking about different taxes and different tax payers (e.g., corporations Vs individuals). There's no hypocrisy in treating different kinds of case differently.


True, but I don't see why this is relevant.


I wouldn't. If I had the means to do so then I would not need to avail of those means in order to get by. And I'm not some saintly individual either.


It's also interesting they when one correctly points out that he is avoiding paying tax one is often accused of begrudgery, as opposed to, say, raising a fair criticism.

I'm happy to. His businesses have provided employment and he has given generously to various causes, including the GAA. None of that is incompatible with criticising him as an Irish citizen who moved abroad to avoid paying tax.

Better GAA man than DJ Carey?

 

[Debanks]

I think it’s a bit unfair to claim he goes around playing the hero. I don’t know the man but he seems to me to be fairly low-key and goes about his business quietly. I take your point about being a tax exile. I think it is only fair to acknowledge the lot of good things he has done, particularly in Limerick and for local businesses. His equine business creates an awful lot of high-quality employment where well-paying jobs wouldn’t be the easiest to find. The economic impact of the Ryder Cup in 2027 is estimated at €300m+. Clearly there wouldn’t be a Ryder Cup in Ireland without him.

We had one previously without him

 

[red&blue]

Wouldn't have Clare above Galway / Kilkenny; their best players are getting on and should they lose to Waterford on Sunday I think they're practically gone.

True but in fairness they were all ireland champions this time last year and they have very talented players

We can revisit after Round 1

 

[red&blue]

good summary. i think if Waterford was in the Leinster c'ship, they'd be contesting the final with Galway this year

maybe, but their not and i think are ranked appropriately, for now

 

[Cook My Sock]

Except when it comes to paying tax.

I'd say JP would rather his money is used where it has an impact,he could of course move back and pay tax so the useless pricks in the Dail could piss it up against a fuckin wall.

 

[Cook My Sock]

Why can't we crib about it? The low taxes are aimed primarily at corporations, and afaik are most effective as regards attracting and retaining foreign investment. Where an Irish-born and rsised businessman chooses to reside for tax purposes is their own business

FYP

 

[Tricolour]

We'll have to agree to differ. Imo it's all about ego for him not from the goodness of his heart as you seem to believe. If he was so low key we wouldn't know as much as we do about his various donations etc.

How much do you know about what he donates to hospitals, healthcare facilities, charities etc?
Its others who talk about that not himself. Id say i could count on one hand the number of times I've heard/seen him interviewed.

 

[Cook My Sock]

How much do you know about what he donates to hospitals, healthcare facilities, charities etc?
Its others who talk about that not himself. Id say i could count on one hand the number of times I've heard/seen him interviewed.

Don't bother, it's plain and simple begrudgery