The Hurling Thread

[AllCork32]

Quaids Lazurus like return is huge. I can't remember someone coming back from a cruciate as quickly. Any other examples?

Well (with all due respect ofc) he is a keeper.
Doesn't need to be able to run full tilt, which is about a month and a half worth of rehab for most players.

 

[AllCork32]

The issue is Vlad that we were never informed of the exact nature and rightly so, it should be kept in house. People hear cruciate injury and automatically assume worse case, half the time it isn’t the worst case.
Different degrees from stretched, partially torn or fully torn.

But 80% of ACL injuries are grade 3 (complete) tears, which with reconstruction surgery takes 7-12 months recovery.

 

[Vladimir The Bear]

Well (with all due respect ofc) he is a keeper.
Doesn't need to be able to run full tilt, which is about a month and a half worth of rehab for most players.

I would have thought that because he is a keeper it would have taken him longer. All that twisting and turning trying to pull off saves.

As far as I'm aware running isn't the main issue when doing an ACL it's the turning, jumping, stopping.
Be very interesting see how he goes now over next few weeks.

 

[Vladimir The Bear]

No jury out with the Bull O Brien. Anyone that has watched him knows he’s an exceptional talent.

He looks an exceptional talent to be fair but it's early days yet, still has it all to prove.

 

[knockfiarna]

He looks an exceptional talent to be fair but it's early days yet, still has it all to prove.

Going to be interesting, shane is good target man and playing full forward too. Could be a change up in tactics keeping three up front as we've normally played 2 on the inside li e for last few years .

 

[AllCork32]

I would have thought that because he is a keeper it would have taken him longer. All that twisting and turning trying to pull off saves.

As far as I'm aware running isn't the main issue when doing an ACL it's the turning, jumping, stopping.
Be very interesting see how he goes now over next few weeks.

You’re 100% correct that it’s more the turning and twisting of the knee. However those movements are much further required for outfield athletes compared to GKs.

 

[shergar]

The following is, tbf, subject to the qualification that maybe Quaid hadn’t an ACL tear. For this post, I’m assuming he had. Can’t see why you would deny a key player a single game for 5 months unless he was badly injured.

That being so, I think you can see this as good news for Limerick or, just as easily, as a bad sign for them.

Straight off - how is he back so quickly? Is it because he’s a unique athlete? Did he get incredible medial assistance? Did JPs wealth allow this?

Maybe. But hard to understand how a 35 year old, amateur hurling goalie is any better able to recover than top athletes playing professionally. Equally JPs millions are no more than the resources available to thousands of professional footballers, American footballers, etc. Yet they don’t normally come back after 5 months.

Equally it’s hard to conceive of a world where a players ideal prep for 4 important matches in a row is to not play for 5 months and then be parachuted in to start. Surely a sub appearance a fortnight ago was the minimum you’d go with?

And yes he is a keeper, but have you seen the twisting and torque involved in hitting a big puc out? Some pressure on a knee that’s untested.

If you ask me this is a gamble. A really big one at that. Maybe it works - that’s the nature of gambles. But the fact that Kiely feels the need to make it at this stage suggests to me that he’s not exactly over the moon with how his team are going otherwise. I don’t think the Wexford or KK performances were rope-a-dope.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

The following is, tbf, subject to the qualification that maybe Quaid hadn’t an ACL tear. For this post, I’m assuming he had. Can’t see why you would deny a key player a single game for 5 months unless he was badly injured.

That being so, I think you can see this as good news for Limerick or, just as easily, as a bad sign for them.

Straight off - how is he back so quickly? Is it because he’s a unique athlete? Did he get incredible medial assistance? Did JPs wealth allow this?

Maybe. But hard to understand how a 35 year old, amateur hurling goalie is any better able to recover than top athletes playing professionally. Equally JPs millions are no more than the resources available to thousands of professional footballers, American footballers, etc. Yet they don’t normally come back after 5 months.

Equally it’s hard to conceive of a world where a players ideal prep for 4 important matches in a row is to not play for 5 months and then be parachuted in to start. Surely a sub appearance a fortnight ago was the minimum you’d go with?

And yes he is a keeper, but have you seen the twisting and torque involved in hitting a big puc out? Some pressure on a knee that’s untested.

If you ask me this is a gamble. A really big one at that. Maybe it works - that’s the nature of gambles. But the fact that Kiely feels the need to make it at this stage suggests to me that he’s not exactly over the moon with how his team are going otherwise. I don’t think the Wexford or KK performances were rope-a-dope.

ACL Grade 2 3-6 months

 

[Northcorkman]

professional athletes are worth millions as are their contracts so maximum acl recovery time is given. He is 35. Prob has two seasons left so i say he decided to have a crack at it.

Dont get why Kiely is risking him day one though. I could be in goals on sunday snd limerick will have enough for tipp.

 

[Killyoursons]

Tipp team has a few surprises:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1913219832713023563

O'Connor on the bench is a big one for me. I think they could struggle on their own puck-outs. O'Farrell is a v promising player, but I thought his best position would be further back. John McGrath has had v little form in the past few seasons, just hasn't been the same player for me at all. Maybe Tipp have a specific plan, but these look like big gambles to me.