The Hurling Thread

[Jukka]

The GAA generally hasn't got its head around how to work with the suburbanistion of our cities and large towns. Kerry GAA have hired a dedicated officer to deal with their changing demographics - mainly the major decline in numbers in remote parts of the county and the shift around Killarney and Tralee. Cork could badly do with similar, with a focus on how we're doing in the suburbs. There's plenty small clubs around that should be able to benefit from growth before we talk about setting up new ones. Rochestown could/should take a massive share of Douglas's pick. The Ballygunner set up is becoming a farce, and hardly good for Waterford. You'd say something if they had hoovered up loads all Ireland clubs.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

The GAA generally hasn't got its head around how to work with the suburbanistion of our cities and large towns. Kerry GAA have hired a dedicated officer to deal with their changing demographics - mainly the major decline in numbers in remote parts of the county and the shift around Killarney and Tralee. Cork could badly do with similar, with a focus on how we're doing in the suburbs. There's plenty small clubs around that should be able to benefit from growth before we talk about setting up new ones. Rochestown could/should take a massive share of Douglas's pick. The Ballygunner set up is becoming a farce, and hardly good for Waterford. You'd say something if they had hoovered up loads all Ireland clubs.

Lads bringing their kids back to their own club doesn't help rural areas either nor does brain dead council pencil pushers denying planning for housing in the sticks.

 

[hurley68]

any time you see that its a bluffer in charge.
The job of every intercounty manager is to win the next match you play.
Theres no three year plan or any of that nonsense at intercounty level.

You may be correct..but I wouldn't class
Michael o Donoghue as a bluffer

 

[omar]

The GAA generally hasn't got its head around how to work with the suburbanistion of our cities and large towns. Kerry GAA have hired a dedicated officer to deal with their changing demographics - mainly the major decline in numbers in remote parts of the county and the shift around Killarney and Tralee. Cork could badly do with similar, with a focus on how we're doing in the suburbs. There's plenty small clubs around that should be able to benefit from growth before we talk about setting up new ones. Rochestown could/should take a massive share of Douglas's pick. The Ballygunner set up is becoming a farce, and hardly good for Waterford. You'd say something if they had hoovered up loads all Ireland clubs.

It's a fair point. The biggest issue for Rochestown would be lack of facilities and manpower to get an underage section off the ground. A lot of very good lads involved there but they'd have a lot of logistical issues to overcome I'd say.

 

[Dinger]

The GAA generally hasn't got its head around how to work with the suburbanistion of our cities and large towns. Kerry GAA have hired a dedicated officer to deal with their changing demographics - mainly the major decline in numbers in remote parts of the county and the shift around Killarney and Tralee. Cork could badly do with similar, with a focus on how we're doing in the suburbs. There's plenty small clubs around that should be able to benefit from growth before we talk about setting up new ones. Rochestown could/should take a massive share of Douglas's pick. The Ballygunner set up is becoming a farce, and hardly good for Waterford. You'd say something if they had hoovered up loads all Ireland clubs.

It's a major bugbear of mine.
Better to have 500 kids distributed across 5 clubs than all concentrated in one super club. The number of kids that drift away unnoticed and never play at adult level must be huge in those super clubs. There's no real motivation for the large clubs to work to keep them on board. They'd be far more valuable to a smaller club who would work hard to keep them involved.

 

[leeside_rebel]

You may be correct..but I wouldn't class
Michael o Donoghue as a bluffer

Definitely not, he gets great mentions from any players who've played under him. That includes teams who didn't won a whole lot, seems to be highly respected

 

[leeside_rebel]

It's a major bugbear of mine.
Better to have 500 kids distributed across 5 clubs than all concentrated in one super club. The number of kids that drift away unnoticed and never play at adult level must be huge in those super clubs. There's no real motivation for the large clubs to work to keep them on board. They'd be far more valuable to a smaller club who would work hard to keep them involved.

It's on another level in Dublin too, lads in same class in primary school not getting to play on club team together because there might be 6 or 7 under 10 teams operating in the club. Biggest problem in Dublin appears to be facilities, it's impossible with cost of land up there for clubs to try buy to expand their number of pitches, etc

 

[Twiceasnice97]

You may be correct..but I wouldn't class
Michael o Donoghue as a bluffer

i agree. I haven't heard him say that its a 3 year project. I am simply pointing out that adult sport is about the year you are in , next year is nowhere.
I imagine cork fans would have looked at 2018 as a stepping stone considering the number of players that appeared to be on the horizon after losing so narrowly to limerick. now here we are 6 years later. A top class team but no titles. next year having to go to cusack park and the gaelic grounds. I

Look at st finbars in cork.
nearly beat ballyea in cusack park with 14 men with a team of kids.
knocked out in the group stages this year by a team that no one fancies to win cork.

 

[Ah ref]

I think this is a very valid point. Every year you can have your underage “developing” but that year all that matters is winning at senior inter county. Form isn’t even that important. Learning to win ugly is. Being the best team isn’t even the point … Galway were best team in 2018 but didn’t produce in final. Clare ran them very close in two semifinals. Limerick barely pipped cork in the semi final. This season was similar and I’d be surprised if next season isn’t far away. Certain teams may have Indian sign over others. But ultimately it’s surviving the games when you’re floundering and making hay when. The sun shines. Luck and refereeing plays a role but a certain amount of karma goes around.

 

[knockfiarna]

2 more years in charge for john kiely and Paul Kinnerk in limerick