The Gaelic Football Thread

[peopleluas]

I just read the RTE report and I realise that the objection is to the effect that it was recorded as a one pointer and should have been a two pointer. So I had it the wrong way around

That shouldn't matter for the objection hearing anyway. If the score the ref recorded was the score the ref allowed, then there are no grounds for an objection (by rule). I just saw the video now myself. The ref raised one hand and the umpire raised a white flag. Totally clear that the ref allowed a one point score. Zero grounds for objection per rule as far as I can see, because the rule is that what the ref allowed stands.

If on the other hand the ref raised his two hands and the umpire raised an orange flag, i.e. the ref allowed a 2 pointer, but then the ref recorded a one pointer. Then that is grounds by rule for objection.

And I've seen arcs that have been incorrectly drawn - quite wonky ones. If this objection is allowed here, then surely there could be an objection if a team were to bring a measuring tape and show that the arc was not 40m from the center of the goals.

Reality is that whether or not a ref makes a mistake in allowing a score, the rule (and the practical reason for the rule), is that the GAA has to stand behind that - whether the outcome is fair or unfair. Otherwise we'll be hearing objections morning noon and night. There are very very few cases of incorrect recording of a score - so fine with objections for those.

 

[peopleluas]

And I see my interpretation of the rule has been applied in another match already with communication from the GAA HQ backing that up: https://www.balls.ie/gaa/mayo-football-appeal-referee-639908. In that case the ref even admitted he made a mistake in the score that he allowed, and yet by rule the objection failed. And I support that rule, because the alternative is too chaotic.

 

[jimmycooper]

If the Donegal football final was watchable then you know the new rules have put the game in the right direction

 

[Megelus]

And I see my interpretation of the rule has been applied in another match already with communication from the GAA HQ backing that up: https://www.balls.ie/gaa/mayo-football-appeal-referee-639908. In that case the ref even admitted he made a mistake in the score that he allowed, and yet by rule the objection failed. And I support that rule, because the alternative is too chaotic.

The fact that these conversations have to have to happen like this is even more reason to hate Jim McGuinness

 

[greengrass]

The fact that these conversations have to have to happen like this is even more reason to hate Jim McGuinness

Is mcguuinness writing the rules book now as well

 

[peopleluas]

The fact that these conversations have to have to happen like this is even more reason to hate Jim McGuinness

The only reason that these conversations have to happen is that most GAA people (including a fair few enforcing the rules) don't read the rulebook.

 

[Megelus]

The only reason that these conversations have to happen is that most GAA people (including a fair few enforcing the rules) don't read the rulebook.

I was talking about the "is it a 2 pt or 1 pt" conversation

 

[peopleluas]

I was talking about the "is it a 2 pt or 1 pt" conversation

Sorry - I get it now.

To be fair to McGuinness though, 'twas going to go ultra defensive like he made it anyway - he just figured out how best to exploit that before the others did (they would have anyway even if he didn't show them how, just not as fast).

 

[jimmycooper]

McGuinness needs to get mcroraity and his like yo kick the ball into the transition of the attack it will still be faster than lines of breaking players that handpass, if anything Kerry proved this.

 

[jimmym]

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