The Future of Cork's Quaysides?

[jimmy magee]

I think these riverways have massive Potential to improve on and Expand Cork City's Public Space .

Imagine the quays as greened and geared towards recreation & lounging; as a green public forum ringing the Centre Island where Cork citizens could gather in the evening to discuss the issues of the day !

It would be Transformative for the city. Currently, the quays (by and large) are walled off, concrete clad motor-transport arteries.

What are people's opinions. ?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/break...of-the-oh-la-la-flair-of-bordeaux-998587.html

 

[rebel_rebel]

The quaysides in Cork are typically characterised by fairly wide roadways, very narrow footpaths and toxic fumes from standing traffic. They are ripe for greening and pedestrianisation and taking advantage of the riverside setting. Unfortunately powerful vested interested in the business community, a Council consumed by a car-led ideology and some very car centric councillors do not want anything like that to happen. In fact they want more cars and less space for sustainable transport.

It's unbelievable at a time when cities all over the world are using the opportunity of Covid to make their cities more sustainable and attractive to people, that Cork is looking to do the exact opposite and increase car usage and space given to the car. Anyone pointing this out is labelled a whinger and a moaner by elected officials. Joke of a city.

 

[Stacky]

If you cannot park anywhere you want (even on the expensively paved streets and plazas) [/I]like Cornmarket St, Grand Parade, Courthouse and Emmet Place etc Cork City Council will have a fit. South facing Quays choked with traffic and parking as hapless City Hall has a giant free car park for themselves in the middle of the city. We have a poor quality monopoly bus service and cyclists do not stand a chance and they open a park at Tramore Valley with 350 parking spaces that you have to drive to.

 

[One]

The quaysides in Cork are typically characterised by fairly wide roadways, very narrow footpaths and toxic fumes from standing traffic. They are ripe for greening and pedestrianisation and taking advantage of the riverside setting. Unfortunately powerful vested interested in the business community, a Council consumed by a car-led ideology and some very car centric councillors do not want anything like that to happen. In fact they want more cars and less space for sustainable transport.

It's unbelievable at a time when cities all over the world are using the opportunity of Covid to make their cities more sustainable and attractive to people, that Cork is looking to do the exact opposite and increase car usage and space given to the car. Anyone pointing this out is labelled a whinger and a moaner by elected officials. Joke of a city.

'Vested interested'.

 

[rebel_rebel]

'Vested interested'.

Thanks for your enlightening contribution.

 

[CJ Poogan]

The quaysides in Cork are typically characterised by fairly wide roadways, very narrow footpaths and toxic fumes from standing traffic. They are ripe for greening and pedestrianisation and taking advantage of the riverside setting. Unfortunately powerful vested interested in the business community, a Council consumed by a car-led ideology and some very car centric councillors do not want anything like that to happen. In fact they want more cars and less space for sustainable transport.

It's unbelievable at a time when cities all over the world are using the opportunity of Covid to make their cities more sustainable and attractive to people, that Cork is looking to do the exact opposite and increase car usage and space given to the car. Anyone pointing this out is labelled a whinger and a moaner by elected officials. Joke of a city.

I agree with more green spaces and cycling and public transport are not options for many people (or ever will be).

Cars are needed in the city for commerce.

Place is empty as North Korea at the moment and we need cars moving again and buisness reopen.

Empty streets are a cyclcists wet dream but a total fantasy.

 

[One]

Thanks for your enlightening contribution.

Thanks for your appalling English.

 

[rebel_rebel]

Thanks for your appalling English.

Well done, another excellent contribution. What a mind. :crazyeye:

 

[rebel_rebel]

I agree with more green spaces and cycling and public transport are not options for many people (or ever will be).

Cars are needed in the city for commerce.

Place is empty as North Korea at the moment and we need cars moving again and buisness reopen.

Empty streets are a cyclists wet dream but a total fantasy.

Cars do not equate to a busy city other than busy roads. A traffic jam on Grand Parade or South Mall does not mean the shops are hopping and booming. Two thirds of city centre traffic in Cork city is passing through not stopping for commerce - that is not good for city centre business. https://www.echolive.ie/opinion/Put...-city-e5679d77-9ff7-4560-8572-baf7a76bb27f-ds

Pedestrians and cyclists spend more in retail outlets than car drivers. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlto...in-londons-shops-than-motorists/#4c60636e641e

At a time when cities all over the world are embracing the clear benefits for people and business of reducing car access and increasing sustainable and active transport, it's mind boggling that the city council and many people think that traffic and loads of cars are a good thing.

 

[Drucker]

Cars do not equate to a busy city other than busy roads. A traffic jam on Grand Parade or South Mall does not mean the shops are hopping and booming. Two thirds of city centre traffic in Cork city is passing through not stopping for commerce - that is not good for city centre business. https://www.echolive.ie/opinion/Put...-city-e5679d77-9ff7-4560-8572-baf7a76bb27f-ds

Pedestrians and cyclists spend more in retail outlets than car drivers. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlto...in-londons-shops-than-motorists/#4c60636e641e

At a time when cities all over the world are embracing the clear benefits for people and business of reducing car access and increasing sustainable and active transport, it's mind boggling that the city council and many people think that traffic and loads of cars are a good thing.

I’m just curious: would you consider zero emissions Electric Cars to be “sustainable transport?”
And if you do, would you think they should be incentivised? As in EVs allowed on to the central island, and internal combustion engine cars banned.