The Future of Cork's Quaysides?

[CJ Poogan]

Cars do not equate to a busy city other than busy roads. A traffic jam on Grand Parade or South Mall does not mean the shops are hopping and booming. Two thirds of city centre traffic in Cork city is passing through not stopping for commerce - that is not good for city centre business. https://www.echolive.ie/opinion/Put...-city-e5679d77-9ff7-4560-8572-baf7a76bb27f-ds

Pedestrians and cyclists spend more in retail outlets than car drivers. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlto...in-londons-shops-than-motorists/#4c60636e641e

At a time when cities all over the world are embracing the clear benefits for people and business of reducing car access and increasing sustainable and active transport, it's mind boggling that the city council and many people think that traffic and loads of cars are a good thing.

Once families park their cars in the city centre then they become pedestrians.

In theory you can drive a fiat 500 through debenhams and grab stuff from the shelf but security would take a dim view of it.

 

[CJ Poogan]

I’m just curious: would you consider zero emissions Electric Cars to be “sustainable transport?”
And if you do, would you think they should be incentivised? As in EVs allowed on to the central island, and internal combustion engine cars banned.

EVs are not green or zero emmission.

Cork doesnt have an air quality problem.

But hey to lefty liberal green who are attention seekers...i can park my EV on grande parade FOR FREE and make a BIG FUCKING SONG AND DANCE ABOUT PLUGGING THE FUCKING THING IN but LOOK AT ME...LOOK AT ME.

EV tech is amazing and theres more to home but the materials mining and massive industrial processes used to make this tech possible aint being done by hippie crusty collectives in whest cork.

 

[rebel_rebel]

Once families park their cars in the city centre then they become pedestrians.

In theory you can drive a fiat 500 through debenhams and grab stuff from the shelf but security would take a dim view of it.

As mentioned the majority of traffic in the city is through traffic - not stopping to conduct commerce. That's not good for business. It's also very clear from studies that people who arrive on foot, bike or public transport actually spend more than people who arrive by car.

There's significant hostility from certain elements in the council and business community to anyone who isn't a motorist and doesn't share the car centric vision.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Wh...itics-09d807d4-3a36-482b-af78-90da52eb3b8a-ds

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ir...ng-not-solved-traders-warn-1.3455437?mode=amp

"Household Linens trader never seen ‘anyone on a bike coming in to buy a pair of pillows’". Must say I've never seen anyone in a car go in to a shop to buy anything either!

 

[One]

Yeah loads of people pile shopping into the boot of their bicycle. You talk some load of shit

 

[rebel_rebel]

Yeah loads of people pile shopping into the boot of their bicycle. You talk some load of shit

Good man. http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5165954

Shame you can't read. Must be difficult for you being so intellectually challenged.

 

[CJ Poogan]

As mentioned the majority of traffic in the city is through traffic - not stopping to conduct commerce. That's not good for business. It's also very clear from studies that people who arrive on foot, bike or public transport actually spend more than people who arrive by car.

There's significant hostility from certain elements in the council and business community to anyone who isn't a motorist and doesn't share the car centric vision.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Wh...itics-09d807d4-3a36-482b-af78-90da52eb3b8a-ds

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ir...ng-not-solved-traders-warn-1.3455437?mode=amp

"Household Linens trader never seen ‘anyone on a bike coming in to buy a pair of pillows’". Must say I've never seen anyone in a car go in to a shop to buy anything either!

Only an idiot would drive through the city to go around the city.

We are provided with a north and south ring road.

North one is a bit crap to be honest but still better than crawling along the quays

 

[Meridian]

EVs are not green or zero emmission.

Cork doesnt have an air quality problem.

But hey to lefty liberal green who are attention seekers...i can park my EV on grande parade FOR FREE and make a BIG FUCKING SONG AND DANCE ABOUT PLUGGING THE FUCKING THING IN but LOOK AT ME...LOOK AT ME.

EV tech is amazing and theres more to home but the materials mining and massive industrial processes used to make this tech possible aint being done by hippie crusty collectives in whest cork.

About plugging those cars in.

Those extension leads just dangling and laying on the ground.

Compo cases in the making.

 

[One]

Good man. http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5165954

Shame you can't read. Must be difficult for you being so intellectually challenged.

Lol, ever been to New York m8?

It's slightly different to Cork.

 

[rebel_rebel]

Only an idiot would drive through the city to go around the city.

We are provided with a north and south ring road.

North one is a bit crap to be honest but still better than crawling along the quays

Well then two thirds of drivers using the city must be idiots then.

 

[Drucker]

I think Cycle nazis and eco-mentalists are just anti car. A wheezing cycle nazi emits 20g of Carbon per Kilometre. A Tesla Model S emits zero.