i remember something similar in 70s in the glen up to u13. Glen Rovers and Tomas McCurtains.... they joined at u14 together if memory serves me right... great teams
i remember something similar in 70s in the glen up to u13. Glen Rovers and Tomas McCurtains.... they joined at u14 together if memory serves me right... great teamsthis sounds a bit like the old u13 D competitions in the city which were in fact u12 teams with local names representing their club
The Barrs had 3 teams who were based in different areas of our community Glashhen (based in Wilton and Glasheen), Dyefield (based in Togher and Ballyphehane and Bandon Road (based in The Lough and Greenmount)
The matches between these 3 teams were as fierce as any Barrs v Glen game!
Its a very interesting concept and one i think has alot of merits, it retains the connection to the club while giving all players game time which means less drop off
I think this could be something worth trying up to under 15 with club teams then being formed at u16.
But all clubs would have to do the same and enter the appropriate amount of teams for their players and there be no connection to playing premier senior, treat everyone the same
The prblem I see with it is for instance my own club the Barrs would struggle to have enough for 2 teams on the age never mind 3. So what happens the weaker players who invariably will be the ones toy lose out?
Fair play!
Yeah they played out of the pitch Douglas now use by the roundabout on the southside of Douglas village but they didnt last longThis is the kind of thing we need a new thread on. I am not from the city but has heard of a Ballinlough team in the past that played up until U12. Heard nothing or couldn't find anything else on it but would love to know more, and what were the teams in it etc.
Ballinlough set up a club but only lasted a couple of years, essentially the rockies u12 c/d team, rockies absolutely against it from the startThis is the kind of thing we need a new thread on. I am not from the city but has heard of a Ballinlough team in the past that played up until U12. Heard nothing or couldn't find anything else on it but would love to know more, and what were the teams in it etc.
I meant to reply to this sooner. I think it's v interesting and has some obvious advantages over some of the other suggestions being discussed here. A couple of practical points: it would still place huge demands on playing and training facilities for those (probably few) clubs it would affect (as Reservedcitizen, I think, outlined a few pages back those clubs are already going far and wide looking for pitches). And it would lead to, shall we say, *issues* when it comes to having two or more teams from the same club playing in the same competition. But it's great to have these ideas put up for discussion - thanks!To cater for the very important tradition and club loyalty of the very large clubs we're discussing here, and to optimize resources (playing pitches and the like) perhaps the following approach might be interesting?
For a start: Once a club reaches premier senior in any grade, and has more than X (value of X to be determined) registered players turning 8 in the calendar year, then the club must field geographically-partitioned teams. Starting with that age group, and continuing up with them all the way up to and including adulthood so that after say 14 years or more there are partitioned teams at every level. The club may also field club-wide teams at the following grades, and a player playing for a partitioned team may also play for the club-wide team provided the club-wide team is in a higher grade competition (in practice these will be the best players):
So take Ballincollig for example. You would end up with a number of Ballincollig teams eventually all the way up to adulthood, say:
- A single adult team
- A single u18 team, perhaps...
They would all play in Ballincollig colours, except when playing each other (in which there would be a toss to determine which team plays with the away Ballincollig jerseys).
- Coolroe, Ballincollig
- The Village, Ballincollig
- Powder Mills, Ballincollig
- Carriginarra, Ballincollig
And you'd still have an overall Ballincollig team at adulthood. Almost like a divisional team, but of course with far deeper loyalty.
I probably have the details of this all wrong, but you see the general idea, and perhaps somebody can improve on it.
I think Peopleluas said this would only apply to a club which have a certain number of players registered at a certain age group. You could even tweak that idea, e.g., if you have thirty players or more registered at, say, U14 you don't have to field 'regional' teams but you have that option. If you have forty players or more registered at that age, you have to field two teams. (Those numbers are just to give an idea, in practice they'd probably have to be higher.)The prblem I see with it is for instance my own club the Barrs would struggle to have enough for 2 teams on the age never mind 3. So what happens the weaker players who invariably will be the ones to lose out?
Did Ballintemple have a club too years ago had an old lad at a match one day mention it but have no knowledgeJunior is spot on my late uncle was involved in Ballinlough Blackrock were the main objectors to them ,and to this day its anyone bur Blackrock for them
Ballyphehane doing a great job alright in fairness in recent years and a potential model for other small clubs in similar circumstance to follow. I wouldn't be overly familiar with them but would they have decent numbers at juvenile level or would most of their players transfer at older ages from other clubs like the Barrs etc ? Whatever they are doing they seem to be thriving so more luck to them.Suppose you have the likes of ballinure with Blackrock and rochestown next to douglas
Very small clubs really operating one team junior football teams could they be built up a bit with help from board etc
Ballyphehane have done a great job last few years building back up underage and additional teams - 2 adult football teams and a hurling team again great to see
