The County Board Complaints Thread

[omar]

Was at two rebel Og games lately and the behaviour on the sideline towards officials was appalling. Not mentors but supporters and parents. Four different clubs involved.
They need to bring in a silent sideline or they will run out of officials.

Parents should be put on the bank and told STFU by the club.

It's so different to when I played. My parents wouldn't go to games. Let me off to play away and enjoy it. Supported me by making sure I had everything I needed to play in all sports.

I'd say my mother's first time watching me play was a county final at adult level when I was 19.

I know things are different these days and I've coached underage teams myself fairly recently. You need parents to drop kids to away games etc but sometimes they need a reminder that this is a hobby, the lads are u14 or u16 or whatever and it's about enjoyment & development or there will be no days in PUC or PUR. The u14 game won't matter a shite to anyone in a week's time.

Kids are naturally competitive. Leave them at it. Honestly if we told parents to drop them at the gate and go away home, I genuinely think kids would prefer that.

 

[Crankycorner]

Parents should be put on the bank and told STFU by the club.

It's so different to when I played. My parents wouldn't go to games. Let me off to play away and enjoy it. Supported me by making sure I had everything I needed to play in all sports.

I'd say my mother's first time watching me play was a county final at adult level when I was 19.

I know things are different these days and I've coached underage teams myself fairly recently. You need parents to drop kids to away games etc but sometimes they need a reminder that this is a hobby, the lads are u14 or u16 or whatever and it's about enjoyment & development or there will be no days in PUC or PUR. The u14 game won't matter a shite to anyone in a week's time.

Kids are naturally competitive. Leave them at it. Honestly if we told parents to drop them at the gate and go away home, I genuinely think kids would prefer that.

Nail on the head.

 

[Vladimir The Bear]

Was at two rebel Og games lately and the behaviour on the sideline towards officials was appalling. Not mentors but supporters and parents. Four different clubs involved.
They need to bring in a silent sideline or they will run out of officials.

In my experience it's usually parents/supporters who never played competitive sport at adult level are usually the main culprits.

I find most people that played will understand that dodgy decisions will go against them from time to time and that's just sport. Indeed you often speak about it in a dressing room about how to recover after a crap decision and forgetting about it and concentrating on the next play.

People who were never in that environment don't seem to get that. Indeed I find women supporters worse then men for shouting abuse at underage officials.

 

[Pooman]

Parents should be put on the bank and told STFU by the club.

It's so different to when I played. My parents wouldn't go to games. Let me off to play away and enjoy it. Supported me by making sure I had everything I needed to play in all sports.

I'd say my mother's first time watching me play was a county final at adult level when I was 19.

I know things are different these days and I've coached underage teams myself fairly recently. You need parents to drop kids to away games etc but sometimes they need a reminder that this is a hobby, the lads are u14 or u16 or whatever and it's about enjoyment & development or there will be no days in PUC or PUR. The u14 game won't matter a shite to anyone in a week's time.

Kids are naturally competitive. Leave them at it. Honestly if we told parents to drop them at the gate and go away home, I genuinely think kids would prefer that.

We have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater here. Anyone who has played knows there's nothing like the buzz of the crowd when playing championship and things are hot. Imagine a Minor championship match played in complete silence. Would totally take from the occasion.
I think the solution is simple. Anyone who abuses a ref has to leave the ground, no second chances. If they refuse then the match is abandoned and the club fined or suspended or whatever. It would stop the whole thing immediately.

 

[omar]

We have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater here. Anyone who has played knows there's nothing like the buzz of the crowd when playing championship and things are hot. Imagine a Minor championship match played in complete silence. Would totally take from the occasion.
I think the solution is simple. Anyone who abuses a ref has to leave the ground, no second chances. If they refuse then the match is abandoned and the club fined or suspended or whatever. It would stop the whole thing immediately.

Agreed but we need to differentiate between supporting the team and abusing officials.

Some lads think they're at PL games the way they carry on while attending games.

 

[red&blue]

Would you be one of those people that roars at a ref when he doesn't blow the whistle for every foul even if it is against your own team.....IF the rules were CLEARLY broken, you must know exactly what was presented in Charleville's appeal and the subsequent Midletons appeal to Croke Park....if show share the details



Likewise i don't have the full details, but I don't think the CCB were wrong to issue the suspensions. As they didn't write the rules, they have no discretionary powers in how to apply them. They have to apply them as written, hence the €200 fine (which is the minimum, and the suspension, although I did think it was a 24 week suspension and not 2 week that should have been applied, but I need to check that.

Basically what the CCB did was say nothing we can do here go annoy Croke Park with this.

Again just to emphasise I don't have any details other then mostly what is written here, but I think Croke Park looked at this and applied the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law. If it is as mentioned here, punished under the 60 day rule, and it is only hours or even a day under this then really what is the issue.
Again don't know the details, of this case, but if the paperwork was all singed by Midleton and sent into Croke Park, and there was a delay there - a 60 day sanction need to be approve by the Director general.

There is no such thing as the spirit of the rule, there is only the actual rule, and no decision should be made outside those parameters

I don't think we should be stopping players playing with their club for any reason especially for bureaucracy.

But the whole point is that for those 60 days Sams club was the club he played with in the US, or are you suggesting players should be able to move to different clubs without any rules or consequences?

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Agreed but we need to differentiate between supporting the team and abusing officials.

Some lads think they're at PL games the way they carry on while attending games.

The GAA silent sideline idea used for go games in some provinces still allows for cheering and applause.

 

[Harroukka]

There is no such thing as the spirit of the rule, there is only the actual rule, and no decision should be made outside those parameters

But the whole point is that for those 60 days Sams club was the club he played with in the US, or are you suggesting players should be able to move to different clubs without any rules or consequences?

I'd say the likes of Ballygarvan, Ballinhassig and other Clubs would have broken the rules ( imagine if all Clubs got to decide which rules only applied to others , and not to them ? ) and played ( illegal ) players too if they knew the only penalty was a €200 fine .

 

[Franno]

"Spirit of the rule"

FFS

 

[red&blue]

"Spirit of the rule"

FFS

The nod and a wink and look after your buddies is alive and well in Cork GAA

If this was Frank and Blackrock this place would be gone into meltdown