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The Billy Davies Tribute Thread

Billy Davies has the CV of a Premier League manager yet is still unemployed ... clubs aren't being fair on him - Scott McDermott

Our man Scott McDermott believes Davies has a top notch managerial record and being linked with the St Mirren job was insulting.




Control the public’s perception of you and nobody will care if you have any talent.

It was American actress Rashida Jones who said it. But it was relevant this week to a guy from Glasgow who has been castigated as one of Scottish football’s pantomime villains.

I had to laugh when reading Sky Sports’ report on Jack Ross being named as the new St Mirren boss.

It said: “The club had been in discussions with former Derby County and Nottingham Forest manager Billy Davies – but Ross was the outstanding candidate.”

Really? Now, no disrespect to Jack Ross. He’s a terrific young gaffer who fully deserves his chance in Paisley. For what it’s worth, I think it’s a great appointment. But the outstanding candidate over Davies? Do me a favour.

Out of courtesy to his local club, Davies spoke to Buddies chairman Gordon Scott but opted to rule
himself out of the running.

The fact he was even linked with a side bottom of the Championship is an insult to Davies’ ability in the dugout.




When he left his last job at Forest in March 2014, he had them seventh in the English Championship, two points off the play-offs. And on a salary north of £500,000 a year.

To put it bluntly, there isn’t a manager in Scotland – Brendan Rodgers aside - boasting a better record. The CV filed away in his brown leather bag is one that could belong to a Premier League gaffer.

So why isn’t he in work? Because you get the feeling if you scissored the name off the top of that A4 paper, there would be clubs falling over themselves to appoint him.

That’s where perception comes in. Davies is viewed as tarnished goods. His reputation goes before him.

But why? The perceived belief is the he would cause a fight in an empty phone box, he’s a troublemaker, he hates the press. Unfortunately for him, these myths have become reality for some people.

I spent almost five hours with him last week. As always, it was fascinating. Since our first meeting in Preston a decade ago, Davies has always been accommodating, honest, funny and insightful. Deep down he’s still the same guy.




Show me a player over the past 18 years who didn’t enjoy working with him. Kris Boyd, who only had a brief spell under him at Forest, had previously played for Alex McLeish, Walter Smith and Gordon Strachan.

But on Davies, he said two years ago: “Billy is the best coach I’ve ever worked with. He works on technique, shape and he gets inside players’ heads.

“He makes you think you’re Messi or Ronaldo – he’s fantastic. And tactically he’s second to none.”

His record of reaching a play-off final with North End, promotion to the Premier League with Derby and two play-offs with Forest backs that up

His stats in England are superb. His win percentages at those clubs are 45, 44, 42 and 43. He’s never achieved less than 79 points in a season – so he guarantees success.

At Forest he broke Brian Clough’s 30-year record of 12 straight home wins. But apparently St Mirren prefer the Alloa boss? Come on.

The negative perception of Davies was perpetuated down south by power-hungry board members at the iPro Stadium and City Ground. The Scot is a proper football man. But he was being suppressed at both clubs by guys with cricket backgrounds, most notably Mark Arthur at Forest.




Personality clashes were inevitable. With Midlands locals at director and CEO level, who were able to exert considerable influence, Davies was always going to be in trouble. He believes he was shafted. And if the evidence he’s gathered against some of the individuals involved is eventually aired in court, payback will be sweet for the 52-year-old.

After he left Forest the first time, Davies was publicly filleted for ‘neglecting the youth academy’.

It’s handy then that he’s kept a copy of the employment contract – offered by the club – which clearly states that he was to have no involvement with any Forest player under the age of 18.

Davies was accused of imposing a ‘media blackout’ during his controversial second spell at Forest when he worked under Kuwaiti owner Fawaz Al-Hasawi. He was ridiculed when a camera was installed to record press conferences.

And infamously he wouldn’t do a post-match briefing after a Forest game against Leicester which could have sealed a play-off place.

Anyone who is remotely close to Davies would know he’d never not want to speak out after any victory, let alone such an important one. But he was under orders.

Those extreme measures were Al-Hasawi’s doing, as was the decision to put Davies’ advisor and cousin Jim Price on the payroll.




With someone like Al Hasawi calling the shots, Davies was powerless to intervene. Unlike a lot of managers, he doesn’t get ideas above his station.

He’s a working-class guy from Pollok, a traditional but forward-thinking coach whose best work is done on the training pitch.

His record shows that if he’s allowed to manage a club his way, allowed to sign his own players, he’ll get results.

All of which makes his 30-month exile from the game in this country more peculiar by the day.

It’s impossible not to feel that Davies is being persecuted, due to public perception. Sadly for him, he hasn’t been able to control it.

As a result, people have forgotten about his unquestionable talent.
 
SIMPLY THE BEST. Former Nottingham Forest player Jonathan Greening says Billy Davies gave him new lease of life


The midfielder worked with Sir Alex Ferguson and Mark Hughes, but says Rangers-linked Davies is one of the very best





JONATHAN GREENING played for Sir Alex Ferguson, Roy Hodgson, Steve McLaren, Mark Hughes and Bryan Robson.

But he reckons Billy Davies is one of the best managers he ever worked under.

Former Manchester United, West Brom and Middlesbrough midfielder Greening was out in the cold at Nottingham Forest when Davies took charge for a second spell in 2013.

At the time Greening was 34 and wondering what he would do next.

But Davies – linked with the vacant Rangers’ job – quickly gave him a new lease of life then handed him his first route into coaching.

The Forest players bought into Davies’ style and Greening revealed there was absolute devastation the day he was axed in 2014.

Greening, now 38, said: “Billy was great with me.

“When he came in to Forest I had a year-and-a-half left on my contract.

“I’d just come back from a broken ankle, went on loan to Barnsley for a month to get fit and played six games.

“I’d been on the bench when there were a few injuries but when they came back I was out again.

“Billy pulled me into the office straight away and said he wanted me back in the squad.

“He said because of all the things I’d done in my career and knowing how good I was he wanted me back.

“He made me feel really special and took me back into the fold.




“That was the end of March and I was involved in every one of the last ten games.

“We did so well in those last ten games then started the following season really well.

“He’s so organised and everyone knew what was happening.

“The attention to detail in training was some of the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve worked for some top managers.

“You felt good about going into training, knowing you would be learning off him.

“It wasn’t till I started working with him you realise how much detail goes into it.

“He was definitely right up there as far as the managers I played under went.

“We were so organised. We didn’t have the best players in the Championship.

“But we had a great team spirit and we were that organised we could change formations if he said just one word.

“Sometimes we’d change two or three formations during the first half just to outwit the opponents.

“All the players loved him and his man management skills were some of the best I’d seen.

“Even if he left you out he’d make up an excuse where you still felt top of the world.

“He’s a really clever guy who knows how to get the best out of everybody.”




Forest were just two points outside the play-off places when Davies was axed in March 2014 following a 5-0 loss to Derby.

Greening said: “When Billy left it was only the second time I’d seen a dressing room as gutted to see a manager go.

“The only other time was when Bryan Robson left West Brom the year after the great escape.

“I’d played the last game before he moved when we got battered 5-0 by Derby.

“We were fifth or sixth in the Championship but whatever happened happened.

“We were in a great position and I still think to this day if he’d stayed till the end of the season we’d have definitely been in the play-offs.

“When he left the bubble burst. We lost most of the games and finished 11th.”

By that stage Greening was also soaking up Davies’ techniques behind the scenes after taking his first steps into coaching.

He said: “At the end of his first season Billy found out I’d done my B licence the year before and I was doing my A that summer.

“I don’t know how he found that out but he was great with me.

“He called me in just before pre-season when I had a year left on my contract and said I was a great trainer, a top lad and did everything right.

“Then he said he wanted me to be a part of the whole thing going forwards.

“He asked if I’d be interested in continuing playing but also helping out Charlie McParland with the 21s.

“I said it would be great so I started doing a full day’s work after that.




“I was in from 7.45am with Billy, his assistant Ned Kelly, Charlie and all the staff talking through what we’d do in training, what the 21s were doing and planning four or six weeks ahead.

“The meetings could last between an hour and two hours before training and we’d look at how we were going to beat the next team we were facing.

“If you’ve ever seen his office – and I spent a lot of time in there – you’d see tactics boards all over the wall with so much detail.

“We’d end up trouncing a team because he’d recognise something.

“He liked his teams to be fit as well so they could outrun opponents, especially at the end of games.

“It was a real pleasure to work with him like that and I was gutted when he left. It was a bit of a negative in my career seeing him go.”




Greening might have become an Old Firm player himself.

When he left Old Trafford in 2001 he heard talk both Celtic and Rangers were keen

Nothing materialised and he joined Middlesbrough instead.

But that doesn’t mean he isn’t aware of the size of the Rangers job.

He reckons Davies would be the perfect fit and added: “Rangers is a massive club. They need someone to come in and do a great job and I’d back Billy to do that 100 percent.

“Look at his record of turning clubs around and being successful.

“He’s one of the best out there and I can’t understand why he’s not been given a chance.

“Every big job that comes up I expect him to be the frontrunner for it.

“He would demand good attractive football with lots of goals, play on the front foot, be well organised and hard to beat.

“For me he’s the only fit for the job at the moment.”
 
Wes backs Davies Rangers would never be 27 points adrift of Celtic if Billy Davies was the manager says Leicester City star Wes Morgan


The Foxes stopper insists his old boss is up there with the best he's worked under



WES MORGAN raised the Premier League trophy with Claudio Ranieri as he played a starring role in football’s greatest fairytale.

But Leicester legend Morgan reckons the early chapters of his career were vital in preparing him for last season’s heroics.

Morgan can now laugh when he recalls lung-bursting pre-season runs and eye-bulging dressing-room rows with Billy Davies at Nottingham Forest.



Stopper Morgan — dubbed ‘The Sweat Monster’ by Davies in their City Ground heyday — doesn’t like comparing bosses.

He helped drag Forest from one end of the Championship to the other under Davies, won promotion with the Foxes, under Nigel Pearson and incredibly landed the Premier League title under Ranieri.

But Morgan insists Davies is up there with the best he’s worked under, and claims his old gaffer would take the Old Firm fight to Brendan Rodgers if he landed the Rangers job.

Morgan said: “I’ve worked under a few different characters and they all have different qualities. For Billy Davies, it’s all about the passion.

“That passion shines through and he’d do anything to help you win. He finds whatever motivates you to win and uses it as a tool.

“Even if that means going face to face, or head to head with you — almost coming to blows — and having it out in an argument.

“I had a fantastic relationship with Billy. We always saw eye to eye, and I’ll always hold him in high regard.

“Davies is up there with any manager. He has high standards, but rewards you if you meet those standards.

“Davies is a fantastic manager, and with someone like him in charge the results would come at Rangers.”

Morgan, 33, was Davies’ captain at Forest, and formed a central defensive pairing with Kelvin Wilson before Wilson moved to Celtic.



Morgan followed Wilson’s progress in Glasgow, played against the Hoops last summer, and knows Rodgers has champs Celts 27 points ahead of Gers in the Premiership.

But he believes Davies could inspire an Ibrox revival if he was granted the opportunity to replace Mark Warburton.

Leicester skipper Morgan added: “Billy partnered me with Kelvin at Forest. We are both Nottingham boys and it worked out very well for us.

“He had worked with Kelvin at Preston and felt we’d do well together. We had a great partnership together.

“I watched Kelvin on TV when he played in the big Champions League games with Celtic.

“I’m very good friends with Kelvin and I always liked to keep an eye on his games. My agent, Brian O’Neil, is Scottish so I keep an eye on things.

“I also had the pleasure of playing at Celtic Park in pre-season and the atmosphere was fantastic for a friendly.

“I can only imagine what the atmosphere would be like on Champions League nights, or at the derbies with Rangers.

“Everyone knows about the rivalry in Glasgow, and if Davies got the Rangers job it would be more fiery than ever.

“Celtic are very strong and are established at the top of the league. Rangers are still finding their feet back in the top division.



“I’m sure they can improve and, in the key games, someone with Billy’s passion and desire could be vital.

“That passion he brings to the big games transfers to his players and they go that extra yard for him.

“The points gap is pretty ridiculous at the moment, but if Davies was in charge I don’t think it would be like that.”

When Morgan was on the brink of landing that historic title last May, Davies told SunSport of a furious bust-up with his old skipper.

He recalled asking Morgan to stage a mock row in the dressing room to spark more life into his team-mates.

Morgan remembers the feud, but didn’t think Davies was joking when he came flying at him.

Morgan said: “Something had happened on the pitch Billy wasn’t happy about. He started having a go at me.

“Normally I can take it but he kept going on, so I started shouting back at him as I stormed down the tunnel.



“I was in the changing room before him, but he came charging in looking for me. He was just as fired up as I was.

“The lads were telling me to calm down, but we literally went head to head. Nothing physical happened in the end, but there were a few strong words. Did he say he was kidding?”

Davies tried to lure Morgan away from the King Power Stadium when he took charge of Forest for the second time.




Morgan added: “We were doing very well with Leicester at the top of the Championship, and maybe I’d done my time at Forest.

“When you see how things have turned out since then, it was good for me I stayed!

“If you know Billy, you will know he demands a lot from his players.

“I’m a big lad and I used to hate pre-seasons under Davies. He’d work the lads so hard and I’d always be at the back in the runs.

“But Billy could see I was trying my hardest, even though I was trailing, and he’d put an arm round my shoulder and thank me for my efforts.

“It’s key to being a good manager that, when he sees players putting in the hard yards, he rewards you.”
 
...Probably the right manager right now alright but probably too tough a character for the bastards in the boardroom.
 
According to some, Billy Davies is still on gardening leave - he's getting paid to do heehaw, and has turned down a couple of jobs offered to him - including The Buddies
 
..well if that's the case SoundMan I don't blame him....in fairness to The Buddies he probably knows he can get better jobs, he doesn't need another shafting with them they are in one hur of a mass almost as bad as Ibrox..;)
 
I was doing some research last night. It made for interesting reading actually.

In 2009/10, months after keeping Forest up, The King finished 3rd in the Championship, going over 30 games in a row without conceding more than 1 goal.

What a record. What a man. What a manager. :bday:

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