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1. Because you can't upgrade the RAM afterwards. People like to have removable RAM so they can upgrade.

2. Apple have always shafted people on the price of extra RAM.

3. Its just another way of forcing/inciting their customers into buying a future macbook with more RAM, because they can't upgrade.

all these points are related to:

Apples profit strategy (which in my post i said was fine to question).

Yet, i also think there would be benefits related to this issue in both the manufacturing process and overall product stability and performance that you are failing to acknowledge. Short sightedness can be cured with glasses.

You can never have too much RAM.

More RAM = Less Paging to the HDD or SSD = much faster performance.

i never said RAM was bad!?


And as you'll agree, macs are said to be "better" for Movie Editing and other RAM intensive multimedia applications.

The kind of users they attract will want as much RAM as possible.

i never said people wouldn't want more RAM, just that the sacrifices for the end user made in easily replaceable RAM, may be outweighed by benefits, and some of these may well be related to profit.

I find it even more amusing when mac whores question people questioning their design choices.

Why should we stay silent when we see a limitation in the design?

are you really descending to name calling already? so early?

my, how moral standards have fallen. I blame the euro.

but yes, i am surprised when people question design choices by Apple.

Their track record in both product design and product engineering may point to the reason why it may be foolish to think that "you know better". Of course, as always, its all subjective: well apart from their overall levels of success Apple has obtained within what is arguably one of the fiercely competitive industries on the planet.

as as regards the RAM failure point - this may be valid, but when you look at their customer satisfaction/orientated/service reliability business model entailing designated Apple repair centers/shops: it actually makes a lot of sense.

i will, of course, concede that it will cost you more to get an Apple product fixed than any other, but this is related to their profit strategy, which is fair game for disapproval, in my opinion.
 
i accept some users may want more RAM than the offered standard, indeed i probably should have put the word most in that sentence. yet nobody has yet discounted any engeering or manufacturing reasons for Apple deciding to solder the RAM to the board, and believe that it is solely a profiteering strategy (of which i already stated was fair enough to complain over).

i am not biased towards Apple and applaud any company that consistently produces good products.

I am just questioning your expertise and knowledge, and whether you are interrogating design decisions objectively, rather than just complaining as certain things do not meet your specific needs.
 
Umma - Much as I admire your knack for defending the indefensible when it comes to Apple, without even resorting to silly things like facts or knowledge.

But how can you say soldered RAM is an engineering decision?
 
i AM assuming that RAM being soldered to the motherboard is for manufacturing or engineering reasons, as it would make sense to offload this part of the process to the manufacturer of the motherboards, or ensure that the process is done congruently.

I am no expert on the manufacturing process, or the reasons why they may do this, but then again nobody here is (from what i know).

Me assuming it is for engineering reasons, is just as spurious as ye assuming it is for other reasons.

Unless an engineer or designer from Apple comes in and says otherwise, we are none the better.

it also seems that we are not the only ones wondering,

http://www.iamdann.com/2012/06/13/soldering-ram-to-the-motherboard

though i somehow doubt the answers to this question will come from these boards (no matter how knowledgeable or indeed intelligible you all feel you are)
 
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