Sperm donating cancer

[Matlock]

I've no issue with people doing it - it's their bodies, their lives, their families.


That child will never have your genes though. His blood will always be that of another man.

Do you understand why a man would have an issue with it being suggested as an option though?

Obviously I am not referring to myself. I am extremely fertile.

I understand why some men would, but I have also known many men who don't.

Same as women with donor egg treatment, though admittedly I think it is a bit easier for women as they still get the bonding experience of pregnancy.

 

[andtherestinjellys]

Quite refreshing to read a person that knows what they are talking about.

Ennisy knows his jizz

 

[MerchantOfEnnis]

I understand why some men would, but I have also known many men who don't.

Same as women with donor egg treatment, though admittedly I think it is a bit easier for women as they still get the bonding experience of pregnancy.

It's an impossible one for anyone to understand unless it directly impacts you I suppose.

Some fellas might be so anxious to have a child that they see it as a blessing, or a minor inconvenience.

Some fellas just could never do it.

Unless you're that guy, it's irrelevant I guess.

Same goes for the mother, it's all down to how she feels about it.

 

[sigourney's knickers]

I've no issue with people doing it - it's their bodies, their lives, their families.


That child will never have your genes though. His blood will always be that of another man.

Do you understand why a man would have an issue with it being suggested as an option though?

Obviously I am not referring to myself. I am extremely fertile.

Still scratching my head in confusion.

Eiiiff..... No no.

 

[Matlock]

You know full well that'll get you banned!

Ya know where I am.

No sperm shall be donating.

Useless anyway

That hadn't even occurred to me tbh! I have edited the post accordingly.

 

[sigourney's knickers]

Delete.

I did.

 

[ikari warrior]

This is severely messed up.

What do people think about sperm donation when having kids?

If it's a single woman, that's fair enough, it's her call.

However I can't understand how any man would ever agree to have his wife or partner impregnated with another man's sperm.

If I was the "father", it would never truly feel like my child. I'd always have it in the back of my head that some other man had got my wife pregnant, and this was his child.

Cancer-causing gene in donor's sperm used across Europe

A Danish donor whose sperm cells contained a cancer-causing gene mutation fathered at least 197 children across 14 countries in Europe, a major investigation has found.

www.rte.ie

Moe this happens “wholesale “ in,well,all of the collective haunts and jaunts we all frequent ,
Just don’t get the baby’s name tattooed on your neck until you are either sure or at peace ,
Jesus that hello magazine .

 

[El Guapo]

Some other man wouldn't have gotten your wife pregnant though, a fertility doctor would have done the procedure, using donor sperm. Neither the doctor nor the donor are the father of the child.

I think that some men are capable of accepting that this is their only option to have a child with their partner, and some aren't. I think if it doesn't sit right with you then you shouldn't do it.

The legislation in this area is utterly fucked though. It is getting better, but we still have such a long way to go. Even the idea that the donor can only be used for 4 families in Ireland is a matter of agreement between the clinics rather than the law. There is no way that shouldn't be codified.

I agree with you, except on a point of order, and we have been down this road before so i don't want to labour it too much, but the sperm Donor is Biologically that kids father so when speaking of inherited genetic conditions it's very much relevant.

Where I disagree with MOE is that we have had thousands if not millions of years of people who are raised by their non biological parents. Through Adoption or whatever. Ask those people whether they love each other and I'm sure they will say yes unequivocally. There may be 1 in a million who say "yes but they're not really mine", But particularly if raised from infancy i would say their relationship is no different from the one i have with my own kids.

Human babies are astonishingly vulnerable at birth they need an extraordinary amount of nurturing. Humans are rare (maybe unique) amoung the animal kingdom in that we care for each other's children.

I reckon there is something hard wired in us all, that if MoE or anyone else were to find himself infertile and decides to have a baby through sperm donation the bonds that form between baby and father over a life would ultimately hammer the shit out of any thoughts of blood or genetics and render it no more than a footnote in a life lived

 

[Chara021]

This is severely messed up.

What do people think about sperm donation when having kids?

If it's a single woman, that's fair enough, it's her call.

However I can't understand how any man would ever agree to have his wife or partner impregnated with another man's sperm.

If I was the "father", it would never truly feel like my child. I'd always have it in the back of my head that some other man had got my wife pregnant, and this was his child.

Cancer-causing gene in donor's sperm used across Europe

A Danish donor whose sperm cells contained a cancer-causing gene mutation fathered at least 197 children across 14 countries in Europe, a major investigation has found.

www.rte.ie

I don't know about it being messed up. It's a very strong feeling when it comes to wanting a baby. In the end it takes a lot more than a cell to become a father to any little human and I guess that's where the attachment lies when it comes to it.

Adoptive parents don't feel any less love for their child just because it isn't biologically their own. Neither does the child. The human condition( i.e Nurture etc ) I guess is stronger than the biological components.

Where agreeing to allow a wife be impregnated with donor sperm is concerned, again is it any different when a man meets a woman who has a child with a previous partner. If the said child is under 7 years of age and he has been the constant , consistent and steady father figure in that child's life, they say the bonding is just as strong as if he was the child's biological father.

If a man truly loves his wife and a donor is the only way for them to at least have her genes in their child, it's a good thing too. I would imagine when that baby enters the world and becomes part of the parents lives it matters little who's egg or sperm it was. And human connection has no boundaries really.

 

[Matlock]

I agree with you, except on a point of order, and we have been down this road before so i don't want to labour it too much, but the sperm Donor is Biologically that kids father so when speaking of inherited genetic conditions it's very much relevant.

Where I disagree with MOE is that we have had thousands if not millions of years of people who are raised by their non biological parents. Through Adoption or whatever. Ask those people whether they love each other and I'm sure they will say yes unequivocally. There may be 1 in a million who say "yes but they're not really mine", But particularly if raised from infancy i would say their relationship is no different from the one i have with my own kids.

Human babies are astonishingly vulnerable at birth they need an extraordinary amount of nurturing. Humans are rare (maybe unique) amoung the animal kingdom in that we care for each other's children.

I reckon there is something hard wired in us all, that if MoE or anyone else were to find himself infertile and decides to have a baby through sperm donation the bonds that form between baby and father over a life would ultimately hammer the shit out of any thoughts of blood or genetics and render it no more than a footnote in a life lived

Absolutely, and thankfully when we legislated for donor use in Ireland we banned anon donations so at least there is a pathway here for DC kids to get information when they turn 18. People.still travel abroad just to circumvent that law though, which just blows my mind.