Sinn Fein are not a Normal Political Party

[outdagap]

See the thing that puzzles me is that SF/IRA have gone out of their way to antagonize the other side for the last 20-odd years in the executive and all other spheres, a zero sum game - we win, they lose.

The more logical approach IMHO would be to try to convince the PUL, or at least a significant minority, that a United Ireland would be a place they could prosper in and their culture etc would be cherished.
But no, fuck them, it's our turn to put the boot in.

I suppose the army council, the hard men (exclusively), can't change now.

My guess is that when they looked at the result of the GFA, their take was that

1. the demographics were going their way
2. it's only a 50+1 vote, so only a matter of time
3. the Free Staters are in their pocket, so they'll vote for a UI regardless
4. by blocking economic development, it will make sure that young nationalists won't be attracted to staying in the UK, and it might force young unionists to get out of NI.
5. they still hate the prods, so since they felt they don't have to try to convince even one of them, they can goad them to their hearts content.

28 years the great unwashed in NI (especially in hardline working class/poor areas) have had a sub optimal existence, that's on them.

But there is always an opportunity to change, however they have a long way back.

 

[Bwana_Dik]

My guess is that when they looked at the result of the GFA, their take was that

1. the demographics were going their way
2. it's only a 50+1 vote, so only a matter of time
3. the Free Staters are in their pocket, so they'll vote for a UI regardless
4. by blocking economic development, it will make sure that young nationalists won't be attracted to staying in the UK, and it might force young unionists to get out of NI.
5. they still hate the prods, so since they felt they don't have to try to convince even one of them, they can goad them to their hearts content.

28 years the great unwashed in NI (especially in hardline working class/poor areas) have had a sub optimal existence, that's on them.

But there is always an opportunity to change, however they have a long way back.

I'm fairly sure I won't see a united Ireland.
It's a in the range of a 50 year project, if ever.

 

[outdagap]

I'm fairly sure I won't see a united Ireland.
It's a in the range of a 50 year project, if ever.

I would like to think that would be the case, or at least until Cork has flown well past the size of Belfast (though the problem with this is that the Dublin Government is clearly investing far more in the Dublin Belfast Corridor than in the 2040 strategy of Cork as a counterweight).

The bigger issue is if SFROI ever get into power here, they will start agitating for a BP, and will push the rest of the Republic to one side in diverting even more funds to buy off unionists.

Either way, we in Cork are in trouble.

 

[Bwana_Dik]

I would like to think that would be the case, or at least until Cork has flown well past the size of Belfast (though the problem with this is that the Dublin Government is clearly investing far more in the Dublin Belfast Corridor than in the 2040 strategy of Cork as a counterweight).

The bigger issue is if SFROI ever get into power here, they will start agitating for a BP, and will push the rest of the Republic to one side in diverting even more funds to buy off unionists.

Either way, we in Cork are in trouble.

Grand sure, I'm in the middle of the Dublin Belfast corridor

 

[King Silkbeard]

Unionists let's celebrate our tradition, parades, bonfires & flags. That's perfectly grand.

Nationalist lets celebrate 1916 Rising, Battle of the Bogside & Hunger Strikes. Hold on a minute, you are being unreasonable.

 

[outdagap]

Grand sure, I'm in the middle of the Dublin Belfast corridor

And I work remotely for a company on the Dublin Belfast corridor !

That said 80% of infrastructure investment over the last 30 years has been spent in the Dublin region and 20% in the rest of the Republic.

The whole point of 2040 strategy was to rebalance and develop a counterweight to Dublin, yet they're already ditching it and going all in with Belfast.

 

[Meridian]

Unionists let's celebrate our tradition, parades, bonfires & flags. That's perfectly grand.

Nationalist lets celebrate 1916 Rising, Battle of the Bogside & Hunger Strikes. Hold on a minute, you are being unreasonable.

And as we can see here, the Cult lads, just cannot change

 

[daftbrush]

Have they said anything on the Spanish migration issue.

 

[Henrys Fonda]

And I work remotely for a company on the Dublin Belfast corridor !

That said 80% of infrastructure investment over the last 30 years has been spent in the Dublin region and 20% in the rest of the Republic.

The whole point of 2040 strategy was to rebalance and develop a counterweight to Dublin, yet they're already ditching it and going all in with Belfast.

Anyone in the republic that thinks a united Ireland will be good for anyone outside Dublin and Belfast are deluding themselves. I appreciate the misty eyed notion of a united ireland but the practically of Cork being relegated to third city is not for me.

 

[outdagap]

Anyone in the republic that thinks a united Ireland will be good for anyone outside Dublin and Belfast are deluding themselves. I appreciate the misty eyed notion of a united ireland but the practically of Cork being relegated to third city is not for me.

TBF, who in the Republic has given any thought to the implications to what a UI would mean to themselves and their families/community ? I give people that benefit of the doubt, but the problem is if SF ever got into power here, our media would come under attack if they didn't toe the republican line.