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[dmc]

Again, this wouldn't be my decision, and I don't see why ( apart from just bad faith arguing) you are trying to pretend it is.

I, and others, have already set our accommodations thag could be used in terms of sport.

No you haven't set out any accommodations. Members of your own team objecting about the boy pushing them down the pecking order. Opposition refusing to play because you have a male on your team.

What are you suggesting should happen? What is the rule you go by?

Reading between the lines what you seem to be saying what I am gathering is if the boy isn't big and strong or very good at football you play them because it is more defendable? I am not putting words in your mouth, just guessing because your are not answering. Clarify if you have answers.

You are the one pushing for boys in girls sports so surely you have a better blueprint for how it works in practice. You might want to think about this ridiculous agenda you are pushing if you haven't thought is out. A committee meeting above your pay grade to decide who gets discriminated against for each case doesn't cut it.

 

[dmc]

No answer @Matlock cat got your tongue? Come on, enlighten us all as to how exactly let the boys loose on girls sports?

 

[Happyhonkaman]

No answer @Matlock cat got your tongue? Come on, enlighten us all as to how exactly let the boys loose on girls sports?

I dont think that what she said or suggested at any point though, is it?

She is saying that these situations are extremely rare right now, and if it became an issue at a club or school that it would be dealt with in a manner where a solution is ideally found that suits all concerned. Your position is a bit hysterical, the olympic boxing might be feeding into that or maybe its something else? Are you aware of a situation where what you are describing is the case? Because I have not heard of one single case here - thats not to say there aren't any, but it is acknowledging that if there is one its will be extremely rare and can be handled in a humane manner hopefully.

Strangely enough the only situation which is comparable at all was my school GAA team when we had a girl playing midfield for us. She had no gender identity issues though, she was just a brilliant footballer and togged out in the female changing room!

 

[dmc]

Strangely enough the only situation which is comparable at all was my school GAA team when we had a girl playing midfield for us. She had no identity issues though, she was just a brilliant footballer and togged out in the female changing room!

A girl changing in her own changing room and playing up against the physically stronger gender. Pretty different.

@Matlock has danced around the issue. You can't push for males in physical female sports unless my questions can be easily answered. Matlock has no answers.

No over reaction here, this gender switching isn't observable nor testable, there isn't a scrap of science to it. There are countless examples of what dangerous nonsense this is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843364953270693890

 

[Matlock]

No answer @Matlock cat got your tongue? Come on, enlighten us all as to how exactly let the boys loose on girls sports?

I didn't see your previous post.

No you haven't set out any accommodations. Members of your own team objecting about the boy pushing them down the pecking order. Opposition refusing to play because you have a male on your team.

Those objections happen in every club, every time a player gets dropped for another player.

What are you suggesting should happen? What is the rule you go by?

Reading between the lines what you seem to be saying what I am gathering is if the boy isn't big and strong or very good at football you play them because it is more defendable? I am not putting words in your mouth, just guessing because your are not answering. Clarify if you have answers.

I have answered all of your questions. Not sure why you are trying to push a narrative that I'm not.

You are the one pushing for boys in girls sports so surely you have a better blueprint for how it works in practice. You might want to think about this ridiculous agenda you are pushing if you haven't thought is out. A committee meeting above your pay grade to decide who gets discriminated against for each case doesn't cut it.

Where am I pushing for boys in girls sports? I am pushing for trans people to be treated with dignity and respect.

 

[Matlock]

A girl changing in her own changing room and playing up against the physically stronger gender. Pretty different.

You seem to be obsessed with dressing rooms. I've given a number of possible solutions to that issue.

@Matlock has danced around the issue. You can't push for males in physical female sports unless my questions can be easily answered. Matlock has no answers.

I haven't danced around anything. Also, why do you get to decide that o have to have an answer to everything before I look for trans people to be treated with dignity.

Im not pushing for males in female soace at all. Thats your obsession, not mine.

No over reaction here, this gender switching isn't observable nor testable, there isn't a scrap of science to it. There are countless examples of what dangerous nonsense this is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843364953270693890

Absolute over reaction. You were suggesting earlier that I should intervene in a school setting with a friend of my child. That's a hysterical reaction.

 

[dmc]

You seem to be obsessed with dressing rooms. I've given a number of possible solutions to that issue.

Answering another poster on that one. You pretty much reversed on putting the boy in with the girls anyway right? We can put that to bed.

No answer on what you do it the girl own team object to the boy taking a spot on the team and reducing a genuine girls game time?

No answer to what to do if opposition teams refuse to play?

Absolute over reaction. You were suggesting earlier that I should intervene in a school setting with a friend of my child. That's a hysterical reaction.

I possibly phased that incorrectly. Did not mean to suggest you should do that to a strangers kid but that you should NOT compound the confusion with your pronoun crap. Alert a parent, the school, use the childs name, do not compound the confusion.

 

[Matlock]

Answering another poster on that one. You pretty much reversed on putting the boy in with the girls anyway right? We can put that to bed.

I didn't reverse anything. It is very difficult to have a debate with you when you keep lying about this.

No answer on what you do it the girl own team object to the boy taking a spot on the team and reducing a genuine girls game time?

I have answered this twice at this stage. You are pretending that an objection on this ground is somehow entirely different to a team member objecting on any other ground. It isn't.

No answer to what to do if opposition teams refuse to play?

Same as happens in any other case. They forfeit the game. Again, this isn't rocket science.

I possibly phased that incorrectly. Did not mean to suggest you should do that to a strangers kid but that you should NOT compound the confusion with your pronoun crap. Alert a parent, the school, use the childs name, do not compound the confusion.

So I should go directly against the wishes of the young person because you have an idealogical objection to it? Not a hope.

If you want to act like that then fine, but you have no right to demand that others join you in your crusade.

 

[dmc]

I didn't reverse anything. It is very difficult to have a debate with you when you keep lying about this.

Well you backed away form letting the boy change with the girls.

I have answered this twice at this stage. You are pretending that an objection on this ground is somehow entirely different to a team member objecting on any other ground. It isn't.

Nope you haven't. Clarify form me, are you saying that you treat a girl losing her place to a boy the same as losing it to another girl on a girls team?

Same as happens in any other case. They forfeit the game. Again, this isn't rocket science.

Opposition girls team forfit because they object to your playing a boy on your girls team against their girls team. You think they should forfit!! You give zero credence to their contention that it might be unfair of that there might be a safety issue for their girls? Forfit, it isn't rocket science. Wow, just wow.

 

[Matlock]

Well you backed away form letting the boy change with the girls.

I never suggested that a boy would change with girls in the first place so I couldn't have backed away from it.

Nope you haven't. Clarify form me, are you saying that you treat a girl losing her place to a boy the same as losing it to another girl on a girls team?

If you mean treat a girl losing their place to a trans girl the same as losing it to a cis girl then yes. Having already said this 3 times, I can't understand how you could possibly need more clarification.

Opposition girls team forfit because they object to your playing a boy on your girls team against their girls team. You think they should forfit!!

Trans girl, and yes they forfeit.

You give zero credence to their contention that it might be unfair of that there might be a safety issue for their girls? Forfit, it isn't rocket science. Wow, just wow.

If they think its a safety issue let them take it up with the organisation.