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Roy Butler/Covid Vaccine..

The only thing we know for sure is that vaccines, same as every medicine ever invented, will cause harm to a small proportion of people, and serious harm to a smaller number of people. That isn't in dispute.

The facts as I understand them are that five and a half billion people have been vaccinated against Covid. Within that group if for example you had some sort of catastrophic spontaneous medical incident that occurred

spontaneously in one in a billion people anyway then you absolutely can't say that those five or six people would or wouldn't have had those incidents had they not been vaccinated. The numerator is too small and the denominator too big to make any inference whatsoever. Equally you can't say that the vaccine had nothing to do with it but based on what we do know there is no mechanistic explanation for why this happened to this young man, and this specific complication doesn't appear to have been reported in any of the other five and a half billion. This is why the peanut example is not well-taken in this instance because we have a far bigger sample size and a clearly understood mechanism.

Maybe over time more examples will emerge. And as the coroner suggests, an open mind should be kept. But it is a quantum leap from there to "it's 50/50, a toss up".

Of all the posts on here I must say you summed it up very well ..
 
Ah but you haven't put your opinion forward.

'I don't know, I'm not qualified' isn't an answer.

I'll try again.Do you think Mr Butler died as a result of taking the vaccine?

(Same question to Matlock).
I don't really see the point of offering opinion on something that I am unqualified to comment on.

But for the purposes of answering your question, no I don't. The reason I don't is that if there is not evidence that the vaccine caused his death, then the logical position is to say that it didn't. Many things could have caused his death. We don't know which one did.
 
Ah but you haven't put your opinion forward.

'I don't know, I'm not qualified' isn't an answer.

I'll try again.Do you think Mr Butler died as a result of taking the vaccine?

(Same question to Matlock).

It is an answer. I've no idea. Mathematically it's very unlikely but it would be unwise not to keep an open mind.

On a broader note it might be good for you to touch grass for a second or two. You're asking people to speculate on the cause of death of a real human being in our community here, not about who's going to win the fucking county final.
 
It is an answer. I've no idea. Mathematically it's very unlikely but it would be unwise not to keep an open mind.

On a broader note it might be good for you to touch grass for a second or two. You're asking people to speculate on the cause of death of a real human being in our community here, not about who's going to win the fucking county final.

It's a satirical website m8.

Maybe 'touch grass' on boards if you're such a sensitive old soul.

At least Matlock is capable of getting off the fence.
 
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