Kibosh has to be inducted into PRoC parlance. Don't kibosh this, lads.
I don't and it hasn't.Well your big trump card was that it first appeared in a Dickens story about an Irish neighbourhood. Which it didn't. Those chimney sweeps could have been from anywhere.
Were there even such a thing as Irish neighbourhoods in London in the 1830's? Seems a bit early to me. Mass migration wouldn't have started until the late 1840's for obvious reasons. And why, if it is of Irish origin, did it originate in London and not Ireland? Did these immigrants just get off the boat and suddenly start putting kiboshes on everything? All the evidence points to it emanating from a more established immigrant community, like, say, I don't know, the Jews?
Why do you want it to be Irish so much? Any serious research has dismissed the notion.
I don't and it hasn't.
Irish-born populations of England, Scotland & Wales, 1841-1921
1841 415,725
That's before the famine.
I've being using a few Alf Stewart-isms lately in RL.
Just for kicks.
Kibosh has to be inducted into PRoC parlance. Don't kibosh this, lads.
Put the kibosh on.......
I don't know where the word comes from, but you're assuming that the spread of a word, ( or a concept or a virus ) has to be based on either widespread contact or predicated on strength (social or numeric) of the source, it doesn't.Well your big trump card was that it first appeared in a Dickens story about an Irish neighbourhood. Which it didn't. Those chimney sweeps could have been from anywhere.
Were there even such a thing as Irish neighbourhoods in London in the 1830's? Seems a bit early to me. Mass migration wouldn't have started until the late 1840's for obvious reasons. And why, if it is of Irish origin, did it originate in London and not Ireland? Did these immigrants just get off the boat and suddenly start putting kiboshes on everything? All the evidence points to it emanating from a more established immigrant community, like, say, I don't know, the Jews?
Why do you want it to be Irish so much? Any serious research has dismissed the notion.
I always thought the Kibosh was a cork word and had something to do with an auctioneering/old trading tradition whereby to signify the end of a sale the auctioneer would put a cabbage on top of a bin or something. Cabaiste being the irish for cabbage like and this getting basterdised to Kibosh.