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Oasis Confirmed For Slane 2009

i wouldnt say its an amazing place to see a gig tbh have been to other places that are a lot better.

most of the acts who play slane are not really good this years line up proves that i cant remember when a decent band played there last. probably neil young in 93 at least in the 80s the boss the stones and bowie played.

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The pain in Slane

June 23, 2009 @ 12:23 pm | by Jim Carroll

While all the pre-match commentary might have led you to believe that such a headline would be refering to the meat-and-two-veg on the line-up, there really should not be any surprises about what’s causing friction after this year’s big gig at Slane.

Kitty Holland’s news report this morning has the organisers planning a “detailed review” about the problems which are said to have occured at the festival. These problems, which were not mentioned by the gardai in their post-gig wrap, led to hundreds of fans venting online and on the airwaves yesterday about lengthy queues to get into the field, drunken behaviour from concert-goers and more lengthy queues to get on buses after the event. Strangely, no-one complained about the music. Kitty’s report includes some of these comments which were culled from Liveline, boards.ie and this blog.

The news report also has an admission from promoters MCD that “ticket scanning checks were suspended for about 30 minutes shortly after 6.35pm at one entrance to ease queues through the forest lane way”. Does anyone know if there were ticket checks done before this point as is often the case at events of this size? You know, security people at the site entrance or perimeter checking to make sure everyone going past actually has a ticket for the show. Or was there just one ticket checking operation in place? I’m sure this is something which would have been outlined in the event management schedule agreed by the promoters, venue owner, gardai, local authorities and Meath County Council.

It will be interesting to see if this story continues to gain traction or if, like so many of its predecessors, it will simply go away. As I said in comments below, “our day of hell at the rock’n'roll concert” stories have occured again and again over the last few summers, from Oxegen 2006 to Babs in 2007. But in all these cases bar Babs (where the people who were fuming knew exactly how to fume to get results), there was a bit of a brouhaha before everyone and Joe Duffy moved onto the next outrage. That’s how the summer gig cycle works: pre-gig buzz, gig, post-gig fuming and then everyone buys tickets for the next gig. Just don’t expect Noel Gallagher to offer you a refund for your troubles.









Anyone for some more pain in Slane?

There’s a report from Tim O’Brien in this morning’s paper as this story shows no signs of going away.

Venue owner Lord Henry Mount Charles is not a happy bunny about the amount of post-gig complaints and criticisms which the Oasis gig has provoked. Per the report, “he had become “extremely concerned” to hear of concert-goers’ bad experiences, largely though the media, in the wake of the event. The complaints mainly related to crowd control issues, which Lord Mount Charles put down to “a failure of systems, particularly around what people are now calling the Dublin gate. I am talking to those involved and I am far from happy – I say that as an understatement.

“Quite certainly there are implications for future concerts at Slane, and I regret the awful shame and the damage to the reputation of Slane Castle as an international venue. I will be looking with care to obviously avoid that in the future”.

Meanwhile, spokesdude for promoters MCD, Justin Green, repeats the admission earlier in the week that ticket scanning had been temporarily suspended at one entrance for about 30 minutes at 6.35pm to ease the build-up of people entering there. He does, though, point out that “at the same time the gate behind them at the bridge entrance was closed, thus ensuring that no one could enter the system knowing that ticket scanning had been temporarily suspended”.

I’ve been thinking a bit about the post-Slane fallout over the last 24 hours and a few things come to mind.

I did a behind-the-scenes piece at Oxegen in 2007 and had access to such areas as the event control room. That room had 17 monitors carrying footage from the different closed-circuit cameras around the site, while there was also a Garda control van outside the building monitoring feeds from different cameras around the racecourse. All footage was recorded and stored.

I would assume that there would be a similar amount of cameras and policing employed for an event like Slane, with its licence for 80,000 paying customers. If so, did experienced crowd control gardai and stewards not see a backlog developing and why did they not do something about it earlier? Surely stopping scanning tickets is a last resort and other more pro-active policing efforts could have been utilised, especially when you have so many surveillance cameras monitoring the site?

Of course, we have been here before. Over on the never-ending boards.ie thread, one poster remembers going to see Queen in Slane in 1986, an event which featured queues, trenches for toilets, fights amongst the audience, a beer-can thrown at Queen’s Brian May, a IR£14.50 ticket price and Chris Rea, while another poster recalls that “the buses and bars were a sham at REM in 1995.”

While some things have changed since then (you can now fume to Joe, for instance), the fact remains that you are always going to get problems at shows at Slane, by nature of the venue and the village where it is located. Remember, you’re building an one-off venue for 80,000 people in a hilly field in the middle of Co Meath so, of course, there’s going to be things which go wrong. After all, you’ll get infrastructural and crowd access problems of a similar hue at any large outdoor event which takes place in a venue which does not usually cater for that many people. Look at the traffic stories from Glastonbury and that festival hasn’t even kicked off yet.

Moreover, contrast a concert at Slane with a concert for a similar size at Croke Park. I live near Croker and, while it takes a little longer for the stadium to clear out after a concert than a GAA game, the systems are in place from weekly matches to make sure you don’t get problems like Oasis at Slane.

However, Lord Henry Mount Charles, MCD Concerts and all the other agencies who are involved in putting on events at Slane Castle have been doing this long enough to forsee such problems and make sure they don’t arise. After all, that’s what event management plans and event consultants are for - the latter put together the former plans which are supposed to take into account problems which arose at previous gigs at the venue, the profile of the crowd at the venue (you’d have a different plan in place for an Oasis show than you have for a Take That show) and other events around the gig (for instance, if there was a big sports event happening that day).

Such plans may not stop problems developing, but they sure as hell should be able to ensure that problems from previous years do not re-occur. And those problems are simply not going to go away if you avoid or ignore the legitimate concerns and issues of angry, paying custom
 
The pain in Slane

Moreover, contrast a concert at Slane with a concert for a similar size at Croke Park. I live near Croker and, while it takes a little longer for the stadium to clear out after a concert than a GAA game, the systems are in place from weekly matches to make sure you don’t get problems like Oasis at Slane.


This is bolliks and well you know it !
How in god's name can you compare 80,000 people in a field, with 80,000 in a purpose built stadium. There are exits all around Croker, Slane has probably less exits as it's not a stadium, it's a country estate. Thats the beauty of it all. Slane has less access out of it, Croke Park has access from all sides.

If you don't like Slane, then don't go,have you ever actually been there at all ? Seeing as you thought the lineups were shite for the last 16 years. It seems festivals are not for you, so why not whinge about events you have actually attended.
 
This is bolliks and well you know it !
How in god's name can you compare 80,000 people in a field, with 80,000 in a purpose built stadium. There are exits all around Croker, Slane has probably less exits as it's not a stadium, it's a country estate. Thats the beauty of it all. Slane has less access out of it, Croke Park has access from all sides.

If you don't like Slane, then don't go,have you ever actually been there at all ? Seeing as you thought the lineups were shite for the last 16 years. It seems festivals are not for you, so why not whinge about events you have actually attended.

i have attended slane but its been a long time since i have and if you read other threads you will see i attend a lot of gigs and festivals.

slane is not a festival btw.

if you read my posts you would also see i no longer attend irish festivals for similar reasons as posted above i.e rip off average line ups and organised poorly.

slane has been run for numerous years and they still cant run it properly maybe you could get a job with lord henrys pr company
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Send On Henry's e-mail address - great idea ! It could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Now that you have completed the nitpicking, maybe you can explain my point, which you dodged nicely - how you can possibly compare croker and slane from a crowd exit perspective.

Maybe, you have ideas on how they can improve the organisation of the event, but, then again maybe not, seeing as you never go.
 
Send On Henry's e-mail address - great idea ! It could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Now that you have completed the nitpicking, maybe you can explain my point, which you dodged nicely - how you can possibly compare croker and slane from a crowd exit perspective.

Maybe, you have ideas on how they can improve the organisation of the event, but, then again maybe not, seeing as you never go.

i didnt compare it as you see its from a newspaper article.

again i said its years since i have been 1993 was the last time.

they could take a look at other major events ran in isolated areas around the world but again that would be too sensible for mcd and the likes who are only interested in ripping off punters and couldnt care less about the proper organisation of events.

were you there last saturday?
 
Wasn't there this year, but have been to 6 of the the last 11 gigs there, saw Oasis when they played support there in '95, just not into them especially after I saw them in Pairc Ui Chaoimh '96, the Prodigy supported -who wouldn't be my normal type of music, but they were outstanding compared to Oasis in Cork, so caught them in the Marquee last week.

I am not disagreeing with the disorganisation issues, I've seen some of them. I just think it's a very special place for gigs and that fact initself, is more important than any disorganisation. A fact that is proven over time - as it nearly always sells out, so the punters clearly like what they are doing there, they like the place - a lot - so do i.

It all started way back in 1981...notice it says festival !
 
Wasn't there this year, but have been to 6 of the the last 11 gigs there, saw Oasis when they played support there in '95, just not into them especially after I saw them in Pairc Ui Chaoimh '96, the Prodigy supported -who wouldn't be my normal type of music, but they were outstanding compared to Oasis in Cork, so caught them in the Marquee last week.

I am not disagreeing with the disorganisation issues, I've seen some of them. I just think it's a very special place for gigs and that fact initself, is more important than any disorganisation. A fact that is proven over time - as it nearly always sells out, so the punters clearly like what they are doing there, they like the place - a lot - so do i.
It all started way back in 1981...notice it says festival !


this doesnt say festival.

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i would consider an event over multiple days a festival not an event over a single day.


but we arent going to agree on this anyway everyone has there own taste and opinions so you like it i dont!
 
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