My trans wife.

That's a pretty long list.

What if we did a list of men who have sexually assaulted women? How long would that list be?

Or a list of Catholic priests who have sexually assaulted young boys..

Or swimming coaches?

Or any kind of men or women who have done this shit.

Some humans are bad people and do bad shit, straight, gay, trans or otherwise.

You yourself started a thread calling out the Irish Times for saying all men are bastards. So you obviously must have felt that stereotyping all men was a bit on the extreme side no?

Being trans is a bit more nuanced than what bathroom you use.

I'm not looking for a row either. But I'm happy to discuss the issue.

Greedy comment annoyed the shit out of me though. Don't let the pedophiles win. For fucks sake....


Too much whataboutery for me m8


The supreme court ruling was pretty straightforward.

Sex is determined by biology. Not some piece of paper.

Its astonishing it's taken legal minds, journalista and academics years to cotton on to what was the first thing we learnt as a species.


We will be a long time undoing the damage this harmful ideology has done. (And make no mistake, people's inherent belief in the goodness of tolerance has been widely exploited by deviants and perverts).




The UK supreme court ruling is a game changer. Especially in all Ireland organisations such as Ladies Garlic football , etc.

Its an issue that urgently needs addressing in this country.
 
Too much whataboutery for me
Funny, that's basically what the rest of your post was.

You want to take a really complex issue and reduce it to trans people are ALL dangerous deviants.

Go back about 50 or 60 years and that is EXACTLY what was said about gay people. It was listed in the first DDSM manual as a deviancy.

And the bigotry it caused destroyed many gay and lesbian lives. Sorry if that's too much whataboutery for you.
 
Yawn.



I've heard the same twaddle or some variation of it dozens of times on here the last 4 or 5 years.



Feelings Trump biology. Male rapists should be housed in women's prisons. Predatory men should be allowed in changing rooms, battered women shelters etc. Its garbage. Any way you (cross) dress it up. This ruling is a victory for women's rights over the right of men to trample all over them.

You try to draw bogus parallels with gay rights and trans identifying mens right. What about the gay women that are expected to allow men in dresses on their dating apps? They can just suck it up? It's contradictory nonsense.

Long story short this judgement only confirms what everyone knew already. Sex is determined by biology not some flat earther nonsense.





You can no sooner turn from a man into a woman than a cow can decide its a pig. That's life.

Children are being left sterile and mutilated in the name of some quack lunacy that you can magically change your sex. Women are being sexually assaulted and raped in what should be safe spaces. Women are losing out on medals and in many cases getting seriously hurt by men competing in their sports. Its complete insanity and has been tolerated for far too long. The UK ruling is a significant step in binning this nonsense once and for all.

Thankfully our 32 county approach on a range of issues means our cowardly political class will soon be forced to tackle this than continuing have NGOs push this insidious ideology into our official institutions.

Unfortunately we will probably have to have some equally brave women as those Scottish ladies who took their case to the supreme court to do similar here .
 
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Yawn.



I've heard the same twaddle or some variation of it dozens of times on here the last 4 or 5 years.



Feelings Trump biology.



There's loads more, but you won't bother will you? You've made up your mind and nothing will change it.
Male rapists should be housed in women's prisons. Predatory men should be allowed in changing rooms, battered women shelters etc. Its garbage. Any way you (cross) dress it up.
Hysteria m8, I'd et my estrogen levels checked if I were you.
This ruling is a victory for women's rights over the right of men to trample all over them.

You try to draw bogus parallels with gay rights and trans identifying mens right.
Because there is one. More than one actually.

Gay people were labelled as deviants.

Trans people are being labelled as deviants.

Gay people were labelled mentally ill.

Trans people are being dismissed as mentally ill.

Gay people had their struggles dismissed.

Trans people are having their struggles dismissed.
What about the gay women that are expected to allow men in dresses on their dating apps? They can just suck it up? It's contradictory nonsense.
I've never heard of this happening. Again, this is all up for discussion.

But your starting point is "Trans people are deviants/pedophiles". So you take some moral high ground that exists only in your own head and shut down any discussion.
Long story short this judgement only confirms what everyone knew already. Sex is determined by biology not some flat earther nonsense.


You can no sooner turn from a man into a woman than a cow can decide its a pig. That's life.
Again, totally closed mind.
Children are being left sterile and mutilated in the name of some quack lunacy that you can magically change your sex.
Not in favour of this.
Women are being sexually assaulted and raped in what should be safe spaces.
See above.
Women are losing out on medals and in many cases getting seriously hurt by men competing in their sports. Its complete insanity and has been tolerated for far too long.
See above.

Have you ever read a trans persons POV? Taken 5 minutes to see their challenges in life?

I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying, but dismissing a group of people as peodophiles is a bad starting point for a discussion.
 
I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying, but dismissing a group of people as peodophiles is a bad starting point for a discussion.


Where have I done this?

Quote please.

All your arguments are irrelevant.

The UK Supreme court has ruled that sex is defined by biology.


As it always has been. Its over , the trans identifying men lost.
 
Where have I done this?

Quote please.

All your arguments are irrelevant.

The UK Supreme court has ruled that sex is defined by biology.


As it always has been. Its over , the trans identifying men lost.
You recently referred to a rape victim as a liar and an extortionist, and refused to row back from that view even when a jury vindicated her.

Maybe if McGregor put on a dress you'd recognise him as a predator. But as long as your outrage is kept only for circumstances where the perpetrator is either trans or foreign, it is pretty clear that your priority is not the safety of women.
 
Where have I done this?

Quote please.
So you don't agree with Greedy that all trans people are pedophiles?

Or it's not an insidious ideology?
All your arguments are irrelevant.
I give you links to actual science and you dismiss them by saying "all your arguments are irrelevant".

I show parallels with how gay people and transgender people are/were treated, but they're irrelevant?

Yeah sure. That's not how it works.
The UK Supreme court has ruled that sex is defined by biology.


As it always has been. Its over , the trans identifying men lost.
This isn't a hurling match.

I'll ask again though, have you ever taken any time to read/listen/watch what a trans person has to go through in life? And if you're going to be so dogmatic about something, don't you think you should?
 
So you don't agree with Greedy that all trans people are pedophiles?
I never said I did.

Erra respectfully this argument is a waste of time. You've made up your mind that the feelings of trans identifying men trump actual women's rights.

You will be rightly embarrassed by such flat earthism nonsense in a few years

The rest of us operate in reality.


Scorchingly honest analysis as always by O'Hanlon.


One of the few Irish writers worthy of the title journalist.


Every word of last week’s legal ruling was like a drink of clean, cold water after wandering through a seemingly endless desert — from the declaration that “the concept of sex is binary, a person is either a woman or a man”, to the insistence that all institutions providing services to women, such as hospitals, hostels or sporting events, must act in accordance with the “biological characteristics that make an individual a man or woman”.


These are things that the great majority of people, in Ireland as much as the UK, always knew to be “self-explanatory” and to “require no further explanation”, to further quote from last week’s court judgment.


Trans people have a right to respect and to be treated with dignity. The court reiterated that, too. What they never had is any right to demand that everyone else bend to their will.


RTÉ cannot continually shy away in terror from addressing these contentious but vitally important questions and then be surprised that the number of people who find the national broadcaster “trustworthy” is at such low levels — just 40pc, according to data released last week.
 
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