My sperm my choice

[Sixthsense]

capitalizing random words does little to help your argument, nor does quoting youtube comments.

The comment section of anything is where the troll and other dregs of humanity hang out!

Sweeping statement there, But are we not commenting now?, I guess we are the dreggs, still think I had at point in saying we live in a age where forced motherhood is unimaginable yet forced fatherhood is expected, leaving aside the financial issue, which I actually have no problem with once its reasonable (although we know many men are financially crippled in many cases although many lone parent women are also), would u think it reasonable that a man could legally sign away all his rights in order to give him the choice?, at least in this case the child would actually know for sure his reason for not being involved and would not grow up actually wondering why he was not involved, it would provide an answer for the child, reason could actually be put down on paper, it could also avoid the situation of say a child from a 1 night fling showing up on a doorstep 20 years later and the lives of a whole happy family situation being destroyed.I probably went off on the topic with so many variables, I just think if u were to ask absent fathers why they were actually an absent father they would say its because they did not want involvement with the mother and no matter how much they tried this was unavoidable, and if you were to ask women why they aborted there child the majority would say they did not want involment with the father and no matter how much they would try this it would be inevitable, so should men have a male abortion of sorts available to them, I think in scandanavia they called it a paper abortion.It's just a topic I've thought about as I know a man who ended his own life because of situation like this, had a child from a fling,had no relationship with him, child turned up at the door 20 years later, man had a family, marriage broke up and man took his own life.Why I even argued that a man should not even be financially responsible for a child he did not want has more to do with that the child is eventually going to cop on that the cheques coming in the door are more than likely his father's and a relationship will then more than likely be sought out at some stage.I guess women get to avoid this type of situation through abortion.

 

[Matlock]

unless you are a man, then be prepared to be dragged in and out of court your whole life and face social castigation, something a woman avoids when she terminates the child, my argument is fundamentally really about the lack of men's rights in the situation where women have all the rights, even when the man wants the child to live and he is willing to raise it on his own, the child will still be killed because the mother will want to avoid having to put herself into such situations as courts and social castigation, but a man has to just suck it up.

I've already explained that the only thing you can be "dragged" to Court for is maintenance.

 

[Donald Trump]

I refuse to read anything without paragraphs.

 

[Sixthsense]

I've already explained that the only thing you can be "dragged" to Court for is maintenance.

U seem very focused on the maintenance issue, u don't want to address the other issues, let me ask, do you think a woman should be forced not to terminate her child if the father commits to raise it from birth or do you think she should be just allowed to kill it because it suits her?

 

[Matlock]

U seem very focused on the maintenance issue, u don't want to address the other issues, let me ask, do you think a woman should be forced not to terminate her child if the father commits to raise it from birth or do you think she should be just allowed to kill it because it suits her?

I am very focused on the maintenance issue because it is the only thing that a father can be forced to do for their child.

He does not have to commit to raising the child, he does not have to ever even see the child.

 

[Donald Trump]

I am very focused on the maintenance issue because it is the only thing that a father can be forced to do for their child.

He does not have to commit to raising the child, he does not have to ever even see the child.

How does that work in a legal sense Mattie?

I mean, somebody has to be obligated to care for the child. So, is it just the mother that legal responsibilities (maintenance aside) fall upon?

 

[Matlock]

How does that work in a legal sense Mattie?

I mean, somebody has to be obligated to care for the child. So, is it just the mother that legal responsibilities (maintenance aside) fall upon?

If neither parent is willing to take responsibility for the child then care proceedings will be taken and the child will be fostered, and possibly ultimately adopted.

If one parent decides they don't want to be involved then the courts take the view that nothing is gained by forcing a relationship on them. They will force the absent parent to pay maintenance, but not to have access/custody.

 

[Donald Trump]

If neither parent is willing to take responsibility for the child then care proceedings will be taken and the child will be fostered, and possibly ultimately adopted.

If one parent decides they don't want to be involved then the courts take the view that nothing is gained by forcing a relationship on them. They will force the absent parent to pay maintenance, but not to have access/custody.

Thank you.

So basically, a man (and a woman) both have the right to not raise the child (other than maintenance) and this argument (from 6th sense) is mostly pointless.

 

[Sixthsense]

How does that work in a legal sense Mattie?

I mean, somebody has to be obligated to care for the child. So, is it just the mother that legal responsibilities (maintenance aside) fall upon?

A friend of mine married his partner of 20 years recently because she said if she died he actually had no guardianship rights to their children, so men have zero rights, I'm no expert and stand corrected but when u said it takes 2 parents consent for a child to be adopted I'd imagine that's only if married somehow if there not married I'd say a mother can give up there child for adoption not a bother, I actually know of a girl that did, father doesn't even know.Respect to her though for not killing it.

 

[Sixthsense]

Thank you.

So basically, a man (and a woman) both have the right to not raise the child (other than maintenance) and this argument (from 6th sense) is mostly pointless.

Watch this space, new generation coming, abortion on demand is here, this will be a thing In a generation or two.